Atheism

@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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If you were born in Saudi Arabia, you'd be a muslim. If you were born in Israel, you'd probably be jewish. If you were born in India, you'd probably be a Hindu. Your religion is little more than a geographical accident of birth.

That's right Wilso. I was born in England and so I'm a Christian.

Atheists are obviously of no nationality or culture. Whatever country they are born in they have, of necessity, to be all the same. Which might explain why they are viewed with suspicion by Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Christians.

It is at least one thing they all agree about apart from not caring, one way or another, who is having sex with whom. Even monkeys care about that you know. And elephants. To name two examples.

Never in my life have I encountered a person capable of putting so many words together, and yet saying absolutely nothing. You obviously think your complicated replies make you look smart, but you just look like a douche. Can anyone translate this confusion of words into something that looks like English? Does anyone know what the **** he just said?

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@spendius,

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Even monkeys care about that you know. And elephants. To name two examples.

Do you suppose that is why monkeys are number three rather than number 1 like the bats?

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@Wilso,

I put him on ignore years ago, because I was putting much more effort in deciphering his posts than he was putting into constructing them. Cardinal sin of writing in my book.

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I'm ambivalent about this. Have no idea what the point of it is other atheists may disagree.

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@cicerone imposter,

* sigh * It's funny how posting works. Response is not always predictable. (I guess that's partly what makes it so entertaining. At least to some people.) I thought I would irritate Romeo, but I provoked c.i. instead.

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@hingehead,

I have to say that it sounds like twaddle to me. This is the same kind of appeal to sentiment, to image rather than substance, which is rightfully condemned when the religious types trot it out. I give this a fail.

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@Wilso,

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Never in my life have I encountered a person capable of putting so many words together, and yet saying absolutely nothing. You obviously think your complicated replies make you look smart, but you just look like a douche. Can anyone translate this confusion of words into something that looks like English? Does anyone know what the **** he just said?

Perhaps you should stick to the popular press Wilso. Requiring others to come down to your level is obviously a dumbing-down procedure which I reject.

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@Wilso,

You wrote,

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If you were born in Saudi Arabia, you'd be a muslim. If you were born in Israel, you'd probably be jewish. If you were born in India, you'd probably be a Hindu. Your religion is little more than a geographical accident of birth.

Hey, you stole my "line." Mr. Green

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Your religion is little more than a geographical accident of birth.

I never thought about it that way before.
Things to ponder.

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@Setanta,

Agree.

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@hingehead,

Which is difficult to understand, hinge, after you wrote that meaningless mush in the post at the top of this page. You're assumption that it meant something to others is a bit of a twee affectation, even if it does to some. It was meaningless mush. Scientifically.

I had followed your logic to its obvious conclusion. Simply because you explained that atheists don't identify with any culture, except their own, is no reason to go off on one. It is quite true. They have to be citizens of the world because science is universal whereas religious belief derives from regions.

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At the Bill Nye/Ken Ham debate someone asked creationists to submit their questions for Bill Nye (speaking for the evolutionist side)

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio

2 asked this question

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-02/enhanced/webdr02/5/0/enhanced-19270-1391576914-1.jpg

Richard Dawkins commented on Twitter that he was disappointed that no-one asked "If the sun is a star, why doesn't it come out at night with the other stars?"

It's kind of interesting, it doesn't seem to have any maliciousness to it, I'm guessing that most atheists will groan and most creationists will nod in agreement. Eh, whatever.

But I did think this was an impressive straw man argument.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-02/enhanced/webdr07/5/0/enhanced-14977-1391576919-1.jpg

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I grew up on a rough working-class council house estate where the "religion" was atheism and dog-eat-dog, but in my early teens I thought "I don't need this shallow empty meaningless ****", and began stringing more and more with Jesus.
In other words I made up my own mind to go against the grain.. Smile

Romeo: he runs with no herd!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/POS-swagger2_zps8e311a2c.jpg~original

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@Romeo Fabulini,

But the coke will kill him!

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@hingehead,

Interesting debate

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

. . . . he should have destroyed satan; or is that impossible for the All Mighty?

Sorry to break my promise to leave this thread alone. God will destroy Satan while many from the LBGT community will live. It's not a matter of one's sin because all sins may be forgiven. See Hebrews 10:25

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@neologist,

Are you saying homosexuals in love are committing a sin?

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@hingehead,

I can't see the commercial, same old story with my iMac and failure to be able to upgrade adobe flash -

but I did read this guy's take -

CultOfDusty2 days ago

This was originally a Scientology commercial that aired in the Super Bowl last year. I noticed that it was clearly a commercial for atheism and Scientology was trying to steal our ****, so I re-edited it for my channel. Youtube swiftly banned it, so thought I'd try again this year.

It cost 8 million to run and is CLEARLY a commercial for atheism, regardless of who ran it.
R

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In the everyday world, we do not just accept a lack of ultimate exactitude with a melancholic shrug, but we constantly employ such inexactitude in our relations with other people. Our relations with others also require a principle of tolerance. We encounter other people across a gray area of negotiation and approximation. Such is the business of listening and the back and forth of conversation and social interaction.

[…]

The relationship between humans and nature and humans and other humans can take place only within a certain play of tolerance. Insisting on certainty, by contrast, leads ineluctably to arrogance and dogma based on ignorance.

In reflecting on what Auschwitz teaches us about the dangers of certainty, Simon Critchley reminds us that uncertainty is not only essential to science, the core of the creative spirit, and the key to happiness, but also the root of peace and tolerance.
Pair with Alan Watts on how to make peace with uncertainty.
2-5-2014

Source http://explore.noodle.org/post/75694076115/in-the-everyday-world-we-do-not-just-accept-a?utm_content=buffer5dc48&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Are you saying homosexuals in love are committing a sin?

All I can say in answer to that is homosexual acts are considered sinful according to scripture as, BTW, are the same acts committed between heterosexuals.
(I know I'm asking for heat with that statement)

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