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@hingehead,

Frank has fucked over and over.

Start your own thread.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

Frank has fucked over and over.

I have that...and I'm glad it happened while I was young.

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@edgarblythe,

Yeh,. See you later.

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@Frank Apisa,

Me too, but I see you trying to ruin conversations, and that isn'cute.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank yelling lalalalalala wrote:

Hinegehead wrote:
You are a fool if you can't see the parallels

Then why did you call me one?

I didn't, I said you would be one if you couldn't see the parallels.

Frank still yelling lalalalala but in a slightly higher pitch wrote:

Why do you suggest there is a parallel?

Because you endlessly make an untestable proposal that hinges on the word 'possible'. I have asked you repeatedly to prove that the moon is not possibly made of orange juice. You have been unable or unwilling to, thus IT IS POSSIBLE THE MOON IS MADE OF ORANGE JUICE.
I haven't posted this anywhere near as often as you post your 'prove there is no possibility of god' notion. To me there is a perfect parallel. And if you can't see it in your heart of hearts I am saddened.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

Me too, but I see you trying to ruin conversations, and that isn'cute.

I am not trying to ruin conversations, Ossobuco. I was trying to join one taking place. You guys were part of what I was trying to join.

Don't make this seem like a chat room for atheists. You are...and have been...discussing all sorts of things.

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@hingehead,

hingehead wrote:

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Frank yelling lalalalalala wrote:
Hinegehead wrote:
You are a fool if you can't see the parallels

Then why did you call me one?

I didn't, I said you would be one if you couldn't see the parallels.

I have indicated that I cannot see the parallels (still can't)...so you it was reasonable to say you were calling me a fool.

But we can let that be. I am willing to assume you did not really mean to call me a fool...and I will withdraw my remark.

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Frank still yelling lalalalala but in a slightly higher pitch wrote:
Why do you suggest there is a parallel?

Quote:
Because you endlessly make an untestable proposal that hinges on the word 'possible'. I have asked you repeatedly to prove that the moon is not possibly made of orange juice. You have been unable or unwilling to, thus IT IS POSSIBLE THE MOON IS MADE OF ORANGE JUICE.
I haven't posted this anywhere near as often as you post your 'prove there is no possibility of god' notion. To me there is a perfect parallel. And if you can't see it in your heart of hearts I am saddened.

I have never even once posted a "prove there is no possibility of god."

Never. Anywhere.

So why are you suggesting that I have?

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@Frank Apisa,

This has been from the beginning a small chat room for atheists, obliterated over and over buy by assholes, including you, now.
I like a lot of you but you seem to be impervious.

And your are trying to ruin our talking.

Shut the **** up, Frank.

Join us on some other thread.

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@Frank Apisa,

Not me. You get others to play, I don't give a ****. You are out of line and so are others who can't resist.

We have needed a place to talk but instead we get hundreds of elevated crap posts. Ok, maybe it has been thousands.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank wrote:

I have never even once posted a "prove there is no possibility of god."

Never. Anywhere.

So why are you suggesting that I have?

This is gobsmacking Frank.

A direct quote from one of your many (many, many, many) posts reiterating the same point

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Do you know there is no possibility of a GOD?

If not...you cannot know there is no possibility of intelligent design.

That seems obvious to me you are saying the only way anyone can say there is no possibility of intelligent design is to prove there is no possibility of God.

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@hingehead,

So, you engage him. Wait for the next sixty five posts.
Stop it, this isn't a god thread.

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@ossobuco,

My argument is about the godiness, it's about his line of reasoning and denial of his own posts. A number of us have pointed out the corner he has painted himself into. His obfuscation only breeds more people who take issue with it.

We just need someone to call someone 'like hitler, or nazi germany' and we can all move on as Godwin intended.

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For what its worth:
There are many times more readers than posters.
An active thread is worth much more than one in the archives

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

Let’s not kid ourselves. This discussion is really not about “intelligent design” or “evolution”…it is about whether there is a GOD or not …

Yahh, let’s not kid ourselves. This discussion is exactly about “intelligent design” and/or “evolution” ... whether the universe has supreme intelligence (God) organising it that has arranged the things the way they are, or whether the universe is a casino saloon on auto pilot ... and the things happen when the sheet hits the fan ... from the accedently opened by the wind door.

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The best way to deal with the trolls, guys, is not to feed them. I acknowledge having been at fault in that, and promise to listen if you tell me about it later.

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@hingehead,

Yes, yes, I get it, after untold number of times.
Why do you all want to hear from Frank stropping again?'
Can't we just talk about dealing with life as atheists? The daily stuff..
that is what interests me.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

(BUT at least he wasn't full of himself like Dawkins)

It's interesting that you feel this way. My impression of both is almost the opposite. I'm finding Dawkins's gene-centric model both interesting and insightful, whereas Gould mostly about style, with his substance rather flimsy. I see Gould as the Obama of evolutionary biology, and I don't mean this as a compliment.

But, the topic of this thread is Atheism, and Gould has tried to secure the cooperation of liberal Christians against creationism by deliberately taking no stand on atheism vs. theism. With this in mind, I do not intend to explore our Gould vs Dawkins disagreement in this context.

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@hingehead,

Frank is full of contradictions that he is not aware of. He doesn't understand that his position is flip-flop.

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Ossobuco said:

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Can't we just talk about dealing with life as atheists? The daily stuff..
that is what interests me

Okay here's a question for atheists-
Suppose you were the boss of a small business (convenience store for example) and there was a job vacancy. Two people apply for it, one is a christian, the other is an atheist. They both seem to be decent nice people with exactly the same qualifications, so which one would you hire?
Bearing in mind that Christians put other people before themselves, you'll know for sure that the Christian guy will never let you down, he'll always turn up on time, will never sneak days off, will never turn up drunk or stoned and will work his guts out to help your business do well, will be friendly and great with customers and fellow workers, will never keep pestering you for a raise, and will do overtime whenever you ask him, and will regard you as a friend rather than a boss.
Of course, an atheist might be just as good, but can you take the chance to find out? So who would you hire?
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@Romeo Fabulini,

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you'll know for sure that the Christian guy will never let you down, he'll always turn up on time, will never sneak days off, will never turn up drunk or stoned and will work his guts out to help your business do well, will be friendly and great with customers and fellow workers, will never keep pestering you for a raise, and will do overtime whenever you ask him, and will regard you as a friend rather than a boss.

What? You stereotype Christians? That's plain weird.

Anyway, taking your question at face value, I've been on a lot of selection panels. You have qualities, qualifications and experience that are essential and 'above the line' and those that are desirable 'below the line'. You weight them and score them against each criteria. I've never had two candidates come out equal on that alone. If it's close its about fit with the existing employees.

Oh and by the way, religion is never a criteria. I work with atheists, Christians and Muslims. Fortunately none of them rely on stereotypes as much as you seem to.

Flip side, I've never been asked about my religion when applying for a job.

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