Atheism

@coldjoint,

So the more than 8000 Muslim men and boys who were killed in Srebrenica in July, 1995 by Bosnian Serbs, Orthodox Christians, were not, in your book, hurt by that? Loon.

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@cicerone imposter,

What you say you have done has nothing to do with that statement.
And that you think it is idiotic only shows that you refuse to accept the reality of an emasculated society.

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@coldjoint,

Ah . . . an emasculated society . . . so if we were real men, we would be out there exterminating Muslims?

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@edgarblythe,

I am trying to explain to you that over complicating problems makes the problems moot, and the chances of solving them nil. And the character assassination that has already begun only shows a vacuous audience.

Do your best to follow along.

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@coldjoint,

Please try again.

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@edgarblythe,

There is zero need to explain myself to you or anyone. Is there?

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More than 7000 posts in this thread, and far, far too many of them from religious zealots who have come here to tell us how worthless atheists are. Often, of course, you get this idiotic assertion that atheists are out to "convert" people. It really is amazing how hysterically hostile the religious are to those who won't believe in their imaginary friend.

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I tried to be nice about it.

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@Setanta,

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you get this idiotic assertion that atheists are out to "convert" people.

I agree, this is such nonsense. I have never heard an atheist try to convert someone...we'd rather be left alone.

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@panzade,

There probably are a few that try that ****, although i doubt that there's very many. I suspect the religious loonies get all worked up about the militant atheists who go around loudly denying that there is a god, who debate the clueless and religious on public access television, and generally give atheists a bad name. It the holy rollers think you are trying to destroy their belief in god, then you are "trying to convert" them.

In my experience, most atheists don't make a big deal about it, and just want the religious to leave them the hell alone. Because the militants are loud-mouthed, pushy types, that's the image that the religious, and self-righteous jerks like Frank want to apply to all atheists. As long as they're not shitting on my lawn, and don't try to put their superstitions into law, i don't give a rat's ass what anyone else believes or doesn't believe.

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Which reminds me of some videos i watched (in the "watching a train wreck" kind of dazed disbelief), one of which had been linked here in another thread. Every one of them consisted of some barely articulate, apparently poorly educated christian calling in to tell the atheists how wrong they were. The host and his guest sadist were apparently at least moderately well educated, so it was like watching someone beat up a cripple. What amazes me is that it lasted more than one episode. How could you not know that calling in was a sucker's move? People like that give atheists are really bad name. I don't like bullies, no matter what their descriptions.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

. Because the militants are loud-mouthed, pushy types, that's the image that the religious, and self-righteous jerks like Frank want to apply to all atheists.

Yo, Jabba...there was no reason for that.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Because the militants are loud-mouthed, pushy types, that's the image that the religious, and self-righteous jerks like Frank want to apply to all atheists.

I think the distinction between militants and regulars among the atheist is exaggerated. I take it that you consider yourself a regular, yet I bet a lot of religious people perceive your talk about "imaginary-friend superstition" as pretty militant. And I don't see how it could be much different. If one truly thinks that theists are dedicating their lives to a superstition, there's no way to say it that doesn't make them feel intellectually assaulted. Personally, after some soul-searching, I decided that I'll never initiate a conversation about religion in real life. But if a Christian brings it up first, I just say what I think without trying to be 'nice' and sugar-coating it.

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@Thomas,

You're missing a very important distinction. I don't go around in public, in real life, talking about this. I only ever use the word superstition in public when people are trying to push their religion on me. I don't have a show on public access television or youtube where i beat up on credulous and largely inarticulate religious types who are foolish enough to call in. In fact, i've talked more about religion and me being an atheist here, online, than in the entire rest of my life. Here, ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances.

In all the time we've spent together in real life, do you ever recall this subject coming up? I don't.

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@Setanta,

Of course not. We didn't discuss the easter bunny either. Since we agree these things don't exist, there is nothing to talk about. But that's not the typical scenario in a country where 80% of people believe in god, or claim to anyway.

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Cicerone Imposter wrote:

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...I also served in the USAF for four years.

Good for you mate.. Smile

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@Thomas,

Well, in my experience (anecdotal disclaimer), Americans tend to avoid discussions of religion just as they tend to avoid discussions of politics--it makes people uncomfortable and it can ruin the friendly atmosphere. With the militant atheists, it's the squeaky wheel principle--they get noticed because they're frequently shooting their mouths off. People of religious conviction are no more likely to go on about it public than are the implicit atheists. They could frequently be in the company of implicit atheists and not know it, because nobody brings it up.

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Setanta said:

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People of religious conviction...could frequently be in the company of implicit atheists and not know it, because nobody brings it up

Personally I can spot an atheist (or religious crackpot) within 5 minutes of meeting him/her, even if none of us are talking about religion!
It's hard to define but there's just something about them that gives them away.. Wink

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Setanta said:

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People of religious conviction...could frequently be in the company of implicit atheists and not know it, because nobody brings it up

Personally I can spot an atheist (or religious crackpot) within 5 minutes of meeting him/her, even if none of us are talking about religion!
It's hard to define but there's just something about them that gives them away..

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Like I said, "i can spot an atheist (or religious crackpot) within 5 minutes of meeting him/her, even if none of us are talking about religion!
It's hard to define but there's just something about them that gives them away"

It works the other way too, as atheists and crackpots can sense my immense spiritual power and begin to squirm and become uneasy.. Smile

"Believe in God, the demons also believe and tremble" (James 2:19)

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