Atheism

@hingehead,

It is a dig at atheists. And there's a lot more than **** that most of them don't know about.

But they do know about the Church getting in the way of them getting their rocks off with the least inconvenience.

They sure do. What could they possibly know about God, Heaven and Hell, or life after death? It's the Church they are after and the way of life it recommends.

And everything they enjoy is a direct result of the Church and is impossible without it.

Pagans had thousands of Gods and they were tolerant of each other's Gods. But they executed anybody displaying disrespect to any of them. And they were a failed state. Which we are not.

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As has been pointed out, the protagonists are interchangeable in such a joke. And, it was not established that either of them could explain about the ****.

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@spendius,

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It is a dig at atheists. And there's a lot more than **** that most of them don't know about.

I know this is technically English, but...??

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But they do know about the Church getting in the way of them getting their rocks off with the least inconvenience.

Do what, now? ????

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They sure do. What could they possibly know about God, Heaven and Hell, or life after death? It's the Church they are after and the way of life it recommends.

Yes, because we want everyone to be deluded and repressed as much as humanly possible, and the Church isn't doing it well enough!

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And everything they enjoy is a direct result of the Church and is impossible without it.

No joke! Without the Church, we wouldn't be able to enjoy the internet!!! Or food! Or sex! Or sleep! Or a football game! Or music!! Thank God for the Church that made all these pleasures possible!!

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Pagans had thousands of Gods and they were tolerant of each other's Gods. But they executed anybody displaying disrespect to any of them. And they were a failed state. Which we are not.

The Church ended the Crusades too soon! They didn't execute enough people!!

Meanwhile, the numbers of believers in Bronze Age myths is falling...falling...falling...While the number of people who comprehend science, history and basic logic is growing...growing...growing... Wink

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@FBM,

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Meanwhile, the numbers of believers in Bronze Age myths is falling...falling...falling...While the number of people who comprehend science, history and basic logic is growing...growing...growing...

Yeah--I know. I can tell that the number of people who comprehend science, history and basic logic is growing...growing...growing...from reading posts on A2K.

Won't it be wonderful when everybody comprehends science, history and basic logic which is the obvious destination if the number who do is growing...growing...growing...

Gulp!!! Who will take away the garbage, deal with the ****, and do short-order cuisine.

You might well sign off with a half-assed smile FBM.

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@spendius,

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Meanwhile, the numbers of believers in Bronze Age myths is falling...falling...falling...While the number of people who comprehend science, history and basic logic is growing...growing...growing...

Yeah--I know. I can tell that the number of people who comprehend science, history and basic logic is growing...growing...growing...from reading posts on A2K.

Won't it be wonderful when everybody comprehends science, history and basic logic which is the obvious destination if the number who do is growing...growing...growing...

Gulp!!! Who will take away the garbage, deal with the ****, and do short-order cuisine.

You might well sign off with a half-assed smile FBM.

I know this is English, but it seems to be of a variety that is bereft of reasoning. What's your point, dood? You want us all to cling to superstitions and myths started by nomadic goat-herders thousands of years ago just because it feels good, makes you feel important and despite the fact that it denies all evidence to the contrary? Sorry, but I'm all for facing the evidence and reality as it is, without all the glossing-over and romantic self-aggrandizement. I'm going to die. I don't have a soul that's going to join some imaginary sky-wizard-daddy in the pie-in-the-sky ever-after and enjoy eternal bliss while others (who fell for your god's powerful tricks to hide himself while demanding that you not fall for his tricks) suffer eternity in some sort of hellfire shithole. It's all made up, man! Wake up. Do you still believe in Santa Claus, too? Wtf?

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@FBM,

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Sorry, but I'm all for facing the evidence and reality as it is, without all the glossing-over and romantic self-aggrandizement. I'm going to die. I don't have a soul...

I was one with the atheists in this discussion…up until that point, FBM.

But maybe you can get me back on board. Would you set out all the “evidence and reality” you have for your assertion: “I do not have a soul.”

Me…I do not have any idea if I have a soul…or if there is an afterlife…or if I come back to this life…or anything else about after death.

I see no evidence at all…and that is the “reality” for me.

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@FBM,

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Sorry, but I'm all for facing the evidence and reality as it is, without all the glossing-over and romantic self-aggrandizement.

That's the choice you are free to make. And beside the point. The point is, you trying to persuade everybody else to face the evidence and reality without considering the situation if they actually did. All of them, as Kant advised.

Or considering whether it is your own "reality" you are talking about and not actual reality its very self. Using it as a buzz word to impress the unwary with your steely intellect. A lot of people use tranquilisers of one sort or another to shove away their steely intellects.

Or considering also whether what you consider "evidence" can be suspected of being tailored, or selected, to suit your position and that your definition of science only includes those sciences best suited to providing it.

We do know what God's powerful tricks resulted in. It's a lot better living in those countries where God's powerful tricks are deep rooted than in any where they are not. So far at least.

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@spendius,

We do know what God's powerful tricks resulted in. It's a lot better living in those countries where God's powerful tricks are deep rooted than in any where they are not. So far at least.

When all religious shallow minded fear mongering twits die out ( like you Spendy) and and free unwashed receptive and unhinged, pure clean minds, like non believers (the growing minority ) we will have a crystal clean, virgin like ( bit of sex for you spendy ) earth, a place where Angels and Gods fear to tread --- End of service. now get down on your knees Spendy and pray that I'm wrong.

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Fall down on your bony knees, spendi. You are like unto a worm before the Lord thy god.

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@Frank Apisa,

I meant it as rhetoric. When I have the time, I phrase my points more precisely.

@spendius:

That's just obfuscation and evasion. Belief in a Great Sky Daddy makes such a great security blanket. And it's easier than developing critical reasoning skills.

And I don't go around trying to convince anybody of anything. They come knocking on my door trying to sell me their pie-in-the-sky myths. And online, others make threads about belief and disbelief. Once someone punts an idea for public discussion, I consider participating. But I don't evangelize for disbelief.

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@FBM,

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But I don't evangelize for disbelief.

That's "critical reasoning skills" gone for a toddle round a deserted mountain range imo.

My previous post elicited a thumb down and 3 replies. None of which dared to address it.

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@tenderfoot,

I can do the "free unwashed receptive and unhinged, pure clean mind" trick. It's actually quite easy which is its main attraction.

I would get banned from A2K if I were to chance my finger in that direction. And polite company.

That you lot are not banned from A2K is scientific evidence that you only talk about "free unwashed receptive and unhinged, pure clean minds" and "critical reasoning" and other mush of a similar ilk as a misguided and somewhat devious claim to fame. You never actually engage with either. Which is a bit wimpy.

They are mantras. Pat yourselves on the back mantras. Worthless.

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@FBM,

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Belief in a Great Sky Daddy makes such a great security blanket.

Have you an objection to great security blankets?

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And it's easier than developing critical reasoning skills.

I don't think so. I think that developing critical reasoning skills is a piece of piss. Babies do it.

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@spendius,

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Belief in a Great Sky Daddy makes such a great security blanket.

Have you an objection to great security blankets?

Yeah, when they condone rape, murder, torture, etc, of people who have different or no security blankets.

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And it's easier than developing critical reasoning skills.

I don't think so. I think that developing critical reasoning skills is a piece of piss. Babies do it.

You know, by Thor, you're right. I was discussing modus ponens with a toddler just a few days ago.

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Me I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues

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@FBM,

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Yeah, when they condone rape, murder, torture, etc, of people who have different or no security blankets.

I never said it was pretty. It's 2012. Have you not noticed?

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You know, by Thor, you're right. I was discussing modus ponens with a toddler just a few days ago.

I know I was right. Your cheap sarcasm doesn't alter that. It derives from a complete absence of critical reasoning skills. Total and incurable. The assertion is all there is and they are worthless.

Referring to critical reasoning skills is a sure sign of the lack of any.

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@spendius,

Good thing I was able to fool my Philosophy professors all through undergrad and grad school, eh? Suckers in grad school gave me a 3.96 GPA, to boot! Laughing

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@FBM,

Philosophy is shite. I wouldn't boast of being approved of by philosophy professors if I was you.

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@spendius,

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@FBM,

Considering his wording, I suspect Spendius doesn't brag about his English Professors.

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