cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:58 am
@FBM,
amen!
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spendius
 
  1  
Wed 8 Aug, 2012 11:13 am
@FBM,
I think there is no chance of finding the source of life. The nearer we get the more it recedes. It's a Tantalus tragedy which is costing a fortune. The cost effectiveness of the Creation is wonderful.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 8 Aug, 2012 11:21 am
@spendius,
How wrong can you be; the cost of "creationism" has cost many human lives and pain. Study your history.

You are blind to facts, and utter stupid stuff all the time.
Krumple
 
  1  
Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

How wrong can you be; the cost of "creationism" has cost many human lives and pain. Study your history.

You are blind to facts, and utter stupid stuff all the time.


The only time a creationist cares about life is when it is a human fetus. Soon as it is born they couldn't give two shits about it's life. Send it to war but if it says anything blasphemous, kill it!
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FBM
 
  2  
Thu 9 Aug, 2012 12:30 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

I think there is no chance of finding the source of life. The nearer we get the more it recedes. It's a Tantalus tragedy which is costing a fortune. The cost effectiveness of the Creation is wonderful.


It's kinda like the lottery; you can't win if you don't play.

And we've learned a lot of good stuff along the way. Like, no matter where or how hard you look, you can't find anything remotely resembling a soul in humans or any other animal.
reasoning logic
 
  2  
Thu 9 Aug, 2012 09:09 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Study your history.

You are blind to facts, and utter stupid stuff all the time.


I was studying a little history of the bible and it seems that what most Christians think are the ten commandments are wrong. Rolling Eyes

spendius
 
  1  
Thu 9 Aug, 2012 11:07 am
@FBM,
Quote:
Like, no matter where or how hard you look, you can't find anything remotely resembling a soul in humans or any other animal.


That's okay so long as you don't mind the logical consequences. Usually statements of that nature stop short of spelling out the logical consequences.

Julien Offray de La Mettrie, French military physician and philosopher, materialist of the enlightenment, did do in L' homme machine. The Marquis de Sade's principle inspiration beside the Flesh itself.
farmerman
 
  1  
Thu 9 Aug, 2012 11:14 am
@spendius,
no new information has come forward about the existence of a "Soul" since the Enlightenment eh?
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 9 Aug, 2012 05:15 pm
@farmerman,
There's Soul music. I heard that's big over there.

There's
1 Detroit (Motown) soul
2 Deep soul and southern soul
3 Memphis soul
4 New Orleans soul
5 Chicago soul
6 Philadelphia soul
7 Psychedelic soul
8 Blue-eyed soul
9 British Soul which is understated.
10 Neo soul
11 Northern soul and modern soul
12 Nu-jazz and soulful electronica
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 9 Aug, 2012 05:19 pm
@spendius,
"Soulful electronica" eh? That's a phrase to conjure with.

"The ghosts of electricity howl in the bones of her face".
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FBM
 
  1  
Fri 10 Aug, 2012 02:48 am
@spendius,
I think you're talking about illogical consequences there.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 10 Aug, 2012 01:59 pm
@reasoning logic,
That's the problem with the bible; too many different interpretations, contradictions, errors, and omissions. That will/should confuse "everybody."
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Fri 10 Aug, 2012 02:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
That's the problem with the bible; too many different interpretations, contradictions, errors, and omissions. That will/should confuse "everybody."


I agree that we can get it wrong or misinterpret it but from my understanding he got it correct in the video, "at about 7 minutes into it. What are your thoughts on the matter?
Krumple
 
  1  
Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:35 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
I agree that we can get it wrong or misinterpret it but from my understanding he got it correct in the video, "at about 7 minutes into it. What are your thoughts on the matter?


Multiple creation stories that differ. Various versions of the ten commandments and every single "eye witness" recount of jesus's resurrection details are different. Not a single one matches another account.

Therefore, I say if a believer really cared about accuracy or truth they wouldn't be a follower of christianity to begin with. They aren't going to care about a video that points out the truth to them because they really don't want truth.
spendius
 
  1  
Mon 13 Aug, 2012 03:15 pm
@Krumple,
“What is truth?” Pilate asked.

John 18: 13.
Krumple
 
  1  
Mon 13 Aug, 2012 03:16 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

“What is truth?”


Something that reflects reality. If you can't use reality as a basis then it is worthless.
spendius
 
  1  
Mon 13 Aug, 2012 03:22 pm
@Krumple,
Do you think a Roman Governor didn't know that?
Krumple
 
  1  
Mon 13 Aug, 2012 03:29 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Do you think a Roman Governor didn't know that?


Part of the problem is that most don't even if they are highly educated. They put their "spiritual" thoughts into one category, a category of "off limits" to investigation or scrutiny. Then they have their other beliefs or ideas which they freely go about picking a part and dissecting. Perfectly intelligent people can be irrational.
FBM
 
  3  
Mon 13 Aug, 2012 10:42 pm
As long as faith is the foundation of religious thinking, there will never be a way to cross-check the object of faith with reality. Ultimately, it's just an emotional preference, probably stemming from cultural indoctrination. Unskilled mental response to social stimuli. But that's not limited to the religious. Look at politics, for example.
Krumple
 
  1  
Tue 14 Aug, 2012 05:21 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:

As long as faith is the foundation of religious thinking, there will never be a way to cross-check the object of faith with reality. Ultimately, it's just an emotional preference, probably stemming from cultural indoctrination. Unskilled mental response to social stimuli. But that's not limited to the religious. Look at politics, for example.


That is why I think a small amount of skepticism with every thing is healthy. Doesn't matter the topic I don't think anyone should just blindly accept something because a large group believes it or that there is some negative labels placed on those who challenge the information.
 

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