Atheism

@Ionus,

Where's the "rule", junior? Where's your source?

@ossobuco,

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I'm really here at a2k to figure out what I think myself, which involves mostly listening, and sometimes modifying my views.

Ah well. I see I've added to the tangential course.

Yes I can see where you as well have added to the tangential course.

Just kidding around because I think you did make a good point!

I do learn much from these arguments! I find that most threads that are what I would consider to be mentally retarded { meaning that they are not mentally advanced} seem to get the highest ratings!

I do realize that this is normally due to the age of the posters and I am in no means trying to put people down I am only studying human behavior and I have not figured it out yet!

This is an example of a thread that has a much higher rating than most of the ones that any of us venture into!

If any of you care about humanity is there any value that you could share with these young people?

You may have to step down in order to help others out!

http://able2know.org/topic/33349-563#post-4612477

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@reasoning logic,

Snort...

My musical advancement of this sort stopped a while ago.

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@ossobuco,

Well then maybe you can help others to get where you are at!

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@reasoning logic,

I'm not the right one to attempt it. My niece likes rap and hip hop and all sorts of other kinds of music, very open. She'd be better at it, but she's not an internet engaged person.

Speaking of tangential..

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@ossobuco,

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I'm not the right one to attempt it

None of us are! All we can do is try to relate! Mine and your grand kids are going to be exposed to these kids and their thinking!

What do you have to lose?

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@reasoning logic,

I've no interest; I'm already an elder, and I don't need to get more crabby than I already am.

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@ossobuco,

I do understand I can only handle so much stress myself! Who knows maybe you can help humanity in your own way!

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@georgeob1,

What makes you think we don't deserve respect? Do I follow you around and troll threads you like?

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@edgarblythe,

No, neither do I.

I think you are attempting to establish a fairly low threshold for trolling, whatever that is. My impression is that one comment - even one in response to some of the rather sweeping mockery offered by your cohort in this sanctuary - is enough to qualify as trolling. By that standard every thread is beset by trolls and nearly every member of A2K is or has been one.

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@JTT,

I am not teaching you English, you great expert you...try starting with the subject of a sentence and see if it should be I or me .

But is this one of those tangents you do ? When will you prove I am a war criminal ? Perhaps your next post ?

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@georgeob1,

We have just endured page after page of **** that hijacked the thread, before I said a word, and you have the gall to suggest one post sets me off. And now you want a long running argument-fest about that to further hijack it.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

What makes you all so sensitive and "special" that you require absolute peace and freedom from disagreement while you entertain each other with the follies of believers and religion? Why do you expect that none of them would offer a rejoinder at all? Is you need for mutual reinforcement so great that you need a sanctuary where you can reassure yourselves, free of the distractions of the world .... like a church perhaps ?

You're a snide son of a bitch. This thead was conceived as a place in which atheists could discuss the experience of being an atheist. And vitriolic bile such as yours is a fine example of some of the hatefulness atheists have to put up with. So to that extent, you have made a contribution to the thread--but only in the exemplary sense, similar to the gore movies they used to show in drivers' education in the 1950s and -60s.

No one here attempts to stop anyone else from posting. That does not mean that anyone here has lost their right to point out hateful, self-serving bile when it's posted.

This thread was never about the "follies of believers and religion." Clowns like you rush in to assume that and trash the thread. Very likely that's because you are threatened by discussions among those who don't share your delusions.

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@Setanta,

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This thead was conceived as a place in which atheists could discuss the experience of being an atheist.

And we are all waiting with bated breath for you atheists to get started on the experience of being an atheist. I certainly am as long as the Fundies knocking at your door and the dog barking at them isn't recycled again.

Surely the orgies are worth a mention.

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@spendius,

Why does their main experience involve criticising religion and saying how put down they are ? I dont mind the odd joke at religion, but some of these here are just nervously sneering .

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@spendius,

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...Surely the orgies are worth a mention.

Nothing about our baby-eating? Surely that's worth a mention, eh?

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@Ionus,

It must be that they have no other experiences to relate.

And the sneering is of a very low order compared to some of the stuff I have read. Compared to Rabelais, Voltaire and de Sade it can hardly be called sneering at all. And what Madam Blavatsky gets up to in Isis Unveiled is nobody's business. If anything can be said about returning to the Middle Ages the quality of sneering is way out in front.

In fact the sneering in some of the cave paintings is well ahead of the sneering we are getting.

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@FBM,

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Nothing about our baby-eating? Surely that's worth a mention, eh?

Oh no FBM. I wouldn't expect anything of that nature from atheists. The Old Testament cured that institution. A lot of the laying waste in the OT was to do with eradicating human sacrifice. It was quite widespread in pre-Biblical days.

I am well aware that atheists have been tamed in that respect. Their anti-Christian veneer is very thin.

Orgies are quite different. They are not illegal. Your red herring is as easy to see through as is the anti-Christian veneer. It's desperate.

The eating of the first born son has been thought to ensure a long line of sons. Sometimes only certain parts, cuts we call them now, were eaten. The heart mainly. And eating the enemy is one way of rendering him into objective ****. And getting rare protein fixes. Prisoners were often fattened up for the feast.

There's a vast literature on these matters which had presumably been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. And right into the 15th and 16th centuries in those lands now called The Americas. And in many other places. There doesn't seem any particular reason why the practices would ever die out except the coming of a new message. Which might at the last lead to the eradication of animal sacrifice. If the animal is a symbol of the human, as it came to be, then why shouldn't bread become a symbol of the animal.

The correct answer is that bread doesn't taste as good as turkey. Which Socrates disagreed with btw.

Not that turkey tastes good to me. I hate it. I'm going on turkey production figures. The turkey used symbolically I mean. A God that accepts bread is surely a humane God.

And sacrificing virgins was obviously barmy. We found other ways of eating them as the Song of Solomon explains.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

georgeob1 wrote:
What makes you all so sensitive and "special" that you require absolute peace and freedom from disagreement while you entertain each other with the follies of believers and religion? Why do you expect that none of them would offer a rejoinder at all? Is you need for mutual reinforcement so great that you need a sanctuary where you can reassure yourselves, free of the distractions of the world .... like a church perhaps ?

You're a snide son of a bitch. This thead was conceived as a place in which atheists could discuss the experience of being an atheist. And vitriolic bile such as yours is a fine example of some of the hatefulness atheists have to put up with. So to that extent, you have made a contribution to the thread--but only in the exemplary sense, similar to the gore movies they used to show in drivers' education in the 1950s and -60s.

No one here attempts to stop anyone else from posting. That does not mean that anyone here has lost their right to point out hateful, self-serving bile when it's posted.

This thread was never about the "follies of believers and religion." Clowns like you rush in to assume that and trash the thread. Very likely that's because you are threatened by discussions among those who don't share your delusions.

Here you are merely full of bombast and ****.

I did join the tread in its early days under the false impression that the single word title and the brief invitation in the opening post for "serious conversation" both invited rational discussion of the subject. I read the opinions of others and expressed my own. Later I responded the the whining of the thread's central habitues for solice and immunity to contrary opinions in all forms and left, merly checking in periodically to see how things were going.

Not long ago i looked in to find little but page after page of mocking anecdotes about the follies of religion and believers - nothing "serious" or constructive at all. Indeed serial pages were devoted to nothing but the "follies of believers and religion". This situation and the previous pious (if that word is appropriate) protestations, that the core group here wanted only to commiserate peacefully on the unique strains that beset them, rather thoroughly gave the lie to all the self-inflating nonsense earlier used to drive everyone else away.

My recent comments here are both accurate and well-deserved - based on the reality of what was posted. Check for yourself. Your self-proclaimed "conceptions" about the thread simply do not correspond to the reality. I'll leave it to you all to decide whether that trait extends itself to other areas of your thought and behavior.

I suppose my comments are a bit snide. It is very hard to point out blatant hypocrisy and inflated self-importance without appearing that way, There was nothing vitriolic in my posts - no hyperbole or bombast such as you so liberally employ - merely direct assertion of evident truth and the irony & hypocrisy that others (mostly) here have created.

Loud shouting and self-serving pretense doesn't change observable facts.

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@georgeob1,

The thread began as intended. When hostile theists showed up, when constant trolls showed up, then the tenor certainly changed. That you want to blame that change on the atheists who have posted here does not surprise me. That you respond with vicious personal reflection doesn't surprise me either. Far from driving everyone away, this thread has become the resort of snotty, resentful religionists and the habitual trolls. You're in the company you deserve to be in.

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