Atheism

Spendi wrote:

Atheists on here have no answer to the simple question --do they want everybody to be converted to atheism as an immediate consequence of their insights?

Geez, Spendi! I replied to that question a while ago and I'm sure you did read it.

There is no worse blind than he who doesn't want to see...

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He's just being his usual dull-witted self, trying to pick a fight--many people here have pointed out time and again that they don't care what other people believe.

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@Francis,

It does mean the same thing as demolishing all religious buildings, redeveloping the land they are on and recycling the materials. Plus all religious services disappear. Including perverted priests. They would need to infiltrate other professions then.

If we were all atheists that's automatic.

But it's easy to assert you are up for that when you know it isn't going to happen.

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@spendius,

Diverting from the question again, Spendi.

I didn't hear an atheist here saying that we all should be atheists.

As far as I'm concerned you can be whatever religious brand you intend to, I won't be troubled at all.

Only, don't try to sell it to me as I don't try to sell atheism to you..

I do believe that we can live and cooperate together, whatever religion you belong to.

Spendi wrote:

If we were all atheists that's automatic.

In your eagerness to maintain the status quo, you would go as far as to assert baseless inferences like the above.

It's easy, even for unimaginative dudes, to think of other options, much fairier than yours..

What have I asserted that I was up to, Spendi?

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@Francis,

spendi seems blind to the reality of religion to others on this planet.

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@Francis,

1--There was no question.

2--But they should say they want everybody to be atheists if they preach atheism. Atheism never enters a real atheists head.

3--Fair enough. Why do you trouble yourself then?

4--Offering to take one for the team eh? You will go if I will go. Oh yeah.

5--I don't believe that.

6--It seems automatic to me that an atheist society would have no churches and religious services. Except maybe for Theme Parks to laugh at how the superstitious gumps used to behave. I don't think it was a baseless assertion once thought through for a micro-second. I think saying it was a baseless assertion was a baseless assertion. You just can't imagine France without any religious buildings or services but that's what you're arguing for.

7--Provide a couple of options then. If even unimaginative dudes would know how to surely you can.

8--Your presence denotes what you are up to. As does mine.

I'm sorry about the method above but my mouse has stopped copying.

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@failures art,

Damn that's funny.

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@hingehead,

It's no good me trying it then because I don't have hinge's sense of humour.

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@spendius,

Spendius do you think God is an atheist? Or does he believe that another god created him?

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@reasoning logic,

I don't know how old you are rl but if you live long enough and put your mind to it you will eventually realise what a bloody silly question that is. Although I must admit that it's unlikely no matter how long you live which I hope is a long time.

You have got yourself stuck in a groove which repeats over and over what a brilliant incisive mind you have. IMO it pays to jump the needle forward by banging on the record player.

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@spendius,

Thank you for your kind words Spendius! lol

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@reasoning logic,

It's okay rl. Anything to help.

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@spendius,

An excerpt from Vol 4 Chapter 7 of Tristram Shandy--

Quote:

WHEN I reflect, brother Toby,
upon MAN ; and take a view of
that dark side of him which represents
his life as open to so many causes of
trouble -- when I consider, brother Toby,
how oft we eat the bread of affliction,
and that we are born to it, as to the
portion of our inheritance -- I was born
to nothing, quoth my uncle Toby, inter-
rupting my father -- but my commission.
Zooks ! said my father, did not my uncle
leave you a hundred and twenty pounds
a year ? -- What could I have done with-
out it ? replied my uncle Toby. -- That's
another concern, said my father testily --
But I say, Toby, when one runs over the
catalogue of all the cross reckonings and
sorrowful items with which the heart of
man is overcharged, 'tis wonderful by
what hidden resources the mind is enabled
to stand it out, and bear itself up, as it
does against the impositions laid upon
our nature. ---- 'Tis by the assistance of
Almighty God, cried my uncle Toby,
looking up, and pressing the palms of
his hands close together -- 'tis not from
our own strength, brother Shandy -- a sen-
tinel in a wooden centry-box, might as
well pretend to stand it out against a
detachment of fifty men, -- we are upheld
by the grace and the assistance of the best
of Beings.

-- That is cutting the knot, said my
father, instead of untying it.

Can atheists untie the knot and if they can't is not Alexander the Great's method superior to leaving the knot a knot?

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Atheists can see that your searching for parables that fit your views leads nowhere.

Why bothering atheists with knots that they don't intend to untie?

I for one don't care about the way you tie your coach, as long as you don't prevent me from using the road..

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@Francis,

Your presence here, and no doubt elsewhere, is proof that nobody is preventing you using the road.

Having the knots referred to in the quote on Ignore is whistling in the dark. They are very real for most people and faith is one way to cut them. Belittling them for doing so requires an alternative offering and pretending their are no knots is not one of them. It is also dangerous to the planet because to pretend the knots don't exist requires a constant performance of self-distracting activities involving increasing doses of consumption of scarce resources.

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Spendi wrote:

Your presence here, and no doubt elsewhere, is proof that nobody is preventing you using the road.

Notwithstanding, if I'm here, it's against your will. You already asked me to not attend this forum.

and wrote:

Belittling them for doing so requires an alternative offering and pretending their are no knots is not one of them.

I didn't belittle anything except your metaphor comparing the Gordian knot to ordeals that supposedly religious people would go through..

Quite mean, in my views..

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@spendius,

There's is ample proof from your use of the same road.

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@Francis,

Quote:

You already asked me to not attend this forum.

When? Where? I might have advised you that your understanding of English idiom places you at a disadvantage. I am often non-plussed by your responses to my posts which I put down to French being your first language. I very much doubt that I have asked you to not attend this forum. I have followed you on Trivia on many occasions as you have me.

Nothing mean intended unless facts are mean.

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@spendius,

You are non-plussed, because you fail to understand the implication of what Frances says. You show more ignorance by that response; "non-plussed." Everybody else knows what he's saying.

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