Rockhead
 
  1  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:40 pm
@Ionus,
I suggest you start your own thread instead of being the monster troll on this one...
Ionus
 
  -1  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:42 pm
@Rockhead,
Quote:
"There is a strong tendency for epople who realise they are about to die to consider God" that does not make him or her any more real...
No it doesnt. But it does show how little faith it takes to swing either way.
Rockhead
 
  3  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:43 pm
@Ionus,
it doesn't "show" anything.

please get a real argument, or go away...
wayne
 
  4  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:46 pm
@Ionus,
You make little sense in your post, and none in the long haul.
Ionus
 
  -3  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:47 pm
@Rockhead,
Are 5 word sentences all you are capable of after a puff ?
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Ionus
 
  -3  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:47 pm
@Rockhead,
Suggestion noted.
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reasoning logic
 
  -1  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:47 pm
@Ionus,
I agree with you Ionus! I do think that CI should explain to us why we should proceed as if there is a potato monster or anything else that can not be proven like unicorns, elves, gods and so forth
Ionus
 
  -2  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:49 pm
@Rockhead,
Quote:
please get a real argument, or go away...
You are not the arbiter. If left to you, like many here, you would only listen to like minded and all agree what clever fellows you are.

Quote:
It's not our disadvantages or shortcomings that are ridiculous, but rather the studious way we try to hide them, and our desire to act as if they did not exist.
- Giacomo Leopardi


Ionus
 
  -2  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:51 pm
@wayne,
Quote:
You make little sense in your post, and none in the long haul.
And of course you are way to clever to have to explain anything but merely appear, make an assertion and sit back waiting for the OOOhhs and AAAhhhs to roll in. It might be a long wait. I hope you are comfortable.
Ionus
 
  -2  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:54 pm
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
I do think that CI should explain to us why we should proceed as if there is a potato monster or anything else that can not be proven like unicorns, elves, gods and so forth
It requires an act of faith to proceed as if they exist. It also requires an act of faith to proceed as if they didnt exist. Fortunately, humans do these things everyday without thinking. I made that point with those who think we are visited by UFOs.
Rockhead
 
  0  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:57 pm
@Ionus,
goodbye.
wayne
 
  2  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 07:01 pm
@Ionus,
Why should I believe you? You make statements about things you cannot possibly know, such as the state of mind of atheists and theists in the water after the Indianapolis went down. You make the assertions then, when questioned, resort to your peewee herman routine.
Ionus
 
  2  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 07:02 pm
@Rockhead,
Goodbye.
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reasoning logic
 
  1  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 07:03 pm
@Ionus,
It is not that I do not want to have faith in the things that I can not detect in any way known to me, it is just that I find it to be irrelevant to wonder for any length of time that these things could exist.
pink cows, ghost, elves, fairies, gods and so forth!
Do not get me wrong because if I could find a profit in believing them I would try and make them up!
mesquite
 
  1  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 07:06 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
I tried very hard to be a believer but I seemed to be a failure at it because I was not able to make it stick, It was not because I did not want to believe in a god it was because my brain was not wired the same way as Intrepid's.

I wonder if the scientific method was at fault?

I don't know that I would say that the scientific method is at fault but surely the knowledge gained from the scientific method plays a part. Scientific knowledge is expanding at an ever increasing rate whereas religious dogma keeps being re-spun using the same old collection of ancient myths.
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Ionus
 
  -3  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 07:09 pm
@wayne,
Quote:
Why should I believe you? You make statements about things you cannot possibly know, such as the state of mind of atheists and theists in the water after the Indianapolis went down.
Cannot possibly know ? Lets look at what you think are facts :
1) Only what you know is knowable. People cant know unless you know.
2) Actions do not indicate what anyone is thinking. People are totally random, there actions are generated by a random number generator.
3)There have been no studies about the psychology of those men in the water. If there was, you would know about it and have read it thoroughly.
Quote:
resort to your peewee herman routine.
Hey ! Watch it ! When you insult Peewee Herman, you insult me !
wayne
 
  1  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 07:20 pm
@Ionus,
All you gotta do is show me the studies and stats on atheists and theists in the water, after the Indianapolis went down. And while we're at it go ahead and explain how you could possibly know what I think are facts. Last I checked, you weren't sharing my thoughts.
Ionus
 
  -3  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 07:34 pm
@mesquite,
Quote:
I could not choose to believe if I wanted to.
You have just described faith. Faith in there not being a God.
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Ionus
 
  -3  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 07:37 pm
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
it is just that I find it to be irrelevant to wonder for any length of time that these things could exist.
You have made a faith based decision that they dont exist. If it is based on anything else, then prove they dont exist.
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Ionus
 
  -4  
Sun 13 Feb, 2011 07:42 pm
@wayne,
You have already told me that I couldnt possibly know what anyone was thinking in the shark infested water. Based on that, the assumptions are what I pointed out to you. If they are wrong, then state why you think it is impossible to know what happened ?

Quote:
Last I checked, you weren't sharing my thoughts.
Thats a good thing, isnt it ?
 

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