Atheism

I suppose you could put it that way.

I assume she will collect a little band of followers who agree with her for the reasons elaborated on in the article. Or that is her intention.

Read the article and find out..

Why is it that believers "believe " that anyone that doesn't "believe " has to prove that what they "believe " is "believable" purely on the on the "fact" that they have "Faith" in what they "Believe" and turn around , stupidly saying "unbelievers " can't prove that their Beliefs and our unbelief's are unprovable, also that, that is a fact and this makes you a atheist and them a " true believer". Hope you enjoyed a trip on my roundabout.

You did make me a little bit dizzy. LOL

I'm hoping Stupid -end -us falls off, hits his head and wakes up to himself.

You said it was a "tangent" osso and so it is. It arrives and touches the circle at an infinitessimal point and then goes on its way.

So says the thread buster.

The thing is, someone of faith does not have a burden to prove anything. Their faith is personal and should be respected just as the right for an atheist not to believe there is a God should be respected.

Personally, I don't see a reason for a them and us situation where one or the other expects to be proven right or for someone else to have the burden to prove them wrong.

There is no actual proof either way. A person who believes in God believes because they choose to believe. A person who does not believe in God believes because they choose to believe.

Lack of evidence of God does not mean He does not exist. Lack of evidence of no God does not mean that He does not exist.

I am what I am and that's what I am.

God bless you pop-eye!

If atheists were given equal treatment by society, the resentment would not be there. Tolerance should work both ways. In the name of religion our schools are under constant attack by the religious. In personal relationships, atheists get treated like they have a contageous disease. When I knock religion it is out of self defense and moral outrage.

In your last paragraph Intrepid and your signature there are 7 "I"s in 19 words.

Can atheism be reasonably discussed in relation to the I. Surely the effects of atheism on the collective are far more important than any individual response to it. And the promotion of atheism to the collective, the attempt to persuade others that it is a good thing, needs must take account of the collective and the effects of success in that persuasion.

Atheists on this thread have not even been prepared to discuss the effects of atheism upon themselves. All they seem concerned about is the attitude of some theists towards themselves without bothering to consider whether those attitudes have a basis and a justification in relation to social organisation.

Your expressed view here can hardly be taken exception to. But it is beside the point. The promotion of atheism to the collective must take account of the social consequences of the promotion being successful. It surely cannot aim to be unsuccessful.

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What do you mean by "affects of atheism upon themselves?" I frees us from the slavery to some man-made god that doesn't exist; we don't waste time praying and asking for favors to win wars or sport's competition. We don't ask to save our souls - when we are the ones responsible for how we live our lives.

I do think that I am normally able to relate to you but I must have missed something in the video. Please tell me what you seen and then I will go back and see if I see closer to what you see!

Alright ci. I'll put it another way.

What are the effects of being freed from slavery to some man-made God, not praying, not asking for the soul to be saved and being responsible for your own life?

It has often been said that the falsifications and fantasies of romance are necessary to enable people to bear the terrors of life and that only the very strongest characters can look the facts of life full in the face. That would certainly explain the human race's constant and abiding attraction to romance and story telling and the notion of the "happy ending" which is such a feature of our fictional tales.

I suppose poring over travel brochures might achieve the same objective but it is a lot more expensive than a dollar in the plate once a week.

To what extent is the slavery to a man-made God more trying than slavery to a desk or production-line god. To what extent is responsibility for your own life reduced by the emergency services and the protection of the police. Is it even possible to be responsible for your own life despite how fine a sentiment it sounds when brayed over people who are either too cowed or too stupid to laugh the idea to scorn.

You have one too many believes there. A person who does not believe in God just does not have that belief. I could not choose to believe if I wanted to.

I do have to agree with you even though I like much of what I read from Intrepid!
I tried very hard to be a believer but I seemed to be a failure at it because I was not able to make it stick, It was not because I did not want to believe in a god it was because my brain was not wired the same way as Intrepid's.

I wonder if the scientific method was at fault?

spendi, Emotion is all part and parcel of life. How one reacts to different stimuli is based on the individual's reaction to his/her environment. Religion and gods are but one small piece of the pie. Not everyone who is religious spends all their time thinking about god - unless you're a monk or nun.

There may be a difference in how things are in the U.S. and how they are here in Canada. Or, maybe just from what I perceive from my personal experience.

Our schools are not under any kind of attack by the religious. In fact, it is the opposite. Religion is not discussed in our schools. Christmas is called anything but in the schools. Bibles are not one of the books that the kids can have in school. The list goes on. I am sure it is different in Catholic schools. I am referring to the public school system.

I don't see people even mentioning atheism. Maybe it is because we have so many different cultures and religions, but I find plenty of tolerance here. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about the U.S. That is an observation, not a criticism.