Atheism

Quoted from above:
"Remember, it's not god versus no-god. It is about existence and cosmic history. So it is god versus nature in who gets credit."

This is true. It is my rock solid conviction that no god has ever existed. There is no credit accorded for existence and history. It simply is.

edgar, That's a safe conclusion; men have created all sorts of gods from the very beginning of our species. The trillions of prayers to their gods are for emotional support from the unknown; research have shown prayers do not work.

It gives them comfort - to believe some pie in the sky god will respond to their requests and thanks you's for the food they consume.

It does bring families together - most of the time.

Gee ci. You have a consequence there. Take it easy. Once you get into consequences you'll look like a silver spoon in the middle of a vat of spaghetti.

spendi, Why can't you use simple analogy for your posts? "Silver spoon - spaghetti?" You've had too much to drink today.

You have to 'chalk down' other wise the chalk dust backs up and the stick won't work. Sheesh!

I just wanted to thank you for posting those way back when, I did eventually watch a few - cool.

But you believe Hitler....are you drunk ??

How does someone choose a label ? If they are an theist then they believe in God. If they dont know a God then they are agnostic. So the only one left is atheist and they chose that to highlight they have no God. The believe there is no God and chose atheist as a label to show their belief. Do you read the other atheist posts ? They're about as anti-God as you can get.

A self proclaimed atheist is someone who has decided there are no gods. If they dont know they are agnostic.

In your words, what do we call someone who definitely does not believe in God ?

I very well may be wrong, but research { therapeutae} as I think this could have been the beginning of a new testament!
I often wonder if James the just could have been a very just philosopher useing parables and fables to teach the people ethics. Again I very well could be wrong so good luck on your quest.

Gees Arty, I dont know where to begin to tell you whats wrong with that.

Ionus You seem to have some very bad thoughts about atheist I can only guess you had some sort of bad experience from them. What I have found is that you have very bad people in any group of people. There seems to be some very moral atheist out there. I can share some with you if needed!

I could be wrong but you are not a theist are you?

JTT

Einstein said God does not play dice with the universe.

Hawking had the event horizon all wrong.

I dont want you sneering at anyone. I think it is counter-productive.

How on earth do you arrive at a "moral atheist" rl. Strategies are not morals.

**** for brains wants to label fools as theists so that he can call all theists into disrepute.

Do you read the posts by yourself and other atheists ? No ? Perhaps you should because you see with great clarity when I do it but not when you do it. THAT was my whole purpose. To show others what an idiot you and your type are.

Every time you say that I point out prayers do work. Are you a slow learner ? Prayers have helped people to cure their own ills in everything from cancer to warts. In some rather baffling incidents, they have cured others when there is no know hypnotism or stress related link.

Do you not love your enemies or do you cast stones upon them?

I do think that Ionus maybe right on this one as it seems that placebos do work

I have not characterized theists as fools. No surprise, though, that Anus attempts to use a straw man argument to justify his bullshit.

Not at all. I most closely identify with science from atheists than I do with stupidity from theists. I can see why atheists are bitter sometimes, religion does not have a perfect track record.

How ever atheists are often as stupid as the religious nutters they like to hold up for display. Many atheists criticise religion yet have very little knowledge of science as the alternative. Nazism and communism are examples of atheism taken to extremes. Really stupid things are said, like all wars are caused by religion and so much crap it is just difficult to not see these atheists as identical to the religious nutters, they just have different beliefs.

I think the corrupt popes, witch trials and other failings of religion is more about the mentally ill and atheists than it is about religion. I have known some very fine people who were religious. Their love of humanity and gentle spirit I see as being truly religious....not these whackos with a grade 5 education trying to argue very bad science. But that type are on both sides of the fence and you never hear boo about them on the atheist side. I aim to correct that.