Setanta
 
  3  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 04:32 am
You're feeding the trolls, folks.
spendius
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 04:51 am
@Setanta,
We know. The thread is trolling a Christian society.
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Setanta
 
  3  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 07:05 am
I just noticed that someone has tagged this thread "sans theism." That's funny, i like that.
snood
 
  0  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 08:51 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

You're feeding the trolls, folks.


This from the same stalwart who finds showing up on religious threads to scoff at "jeebus", "the bobble", and "the imaginary friend" irresistable.
The ultimate hypocrite.
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spendius
 
  0  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 09:05 am
@Setanta,
Gee--Setanta really is a bundle of laughs. It's like listening to somebody continually explaining what a fantastic sense of humour he has.

In the interest of trying to make atheists laugh, in this season of festive cheer, here is a sentence culled from a romantic novelette written in the late 19th century for the newly literate young ladies of the upper classes who lay upon country house chaises-longues waiting for their menfolk to return from the hunting field--

Quote:
All of a sudden the girl continued to sit on the sand gazing on the briny deep, on whose heaving bosom the tall ships went merrily by, freighted---ah! who can tell with how much joy and sorrow, and pine and lumber, and emigrants, and hopes, and salt fish?


"Sans theism" funny!!!??? I beg your pardon.

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Intrepid
 
  0  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 09:26 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Sounds like this church only exists in someone's imagination.

A "Q & A session"?


It appears that Oylok will not, or cannot answer the question. Conspicuous by his abscence one might say.
JTT
 
  0  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 12:24 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
You're feeding the trolls, folks.


The petulent child comes out with the new ultimate sandbox taunt.
Oylok
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 02:39 pm
@Intrepid,
Intrepid wrote:
snood wrote:
Intrepid wrote:

What churches would that be?
Sounds like this church only exists in someone's imagination.

A "Q & A session"?


It appears that Oylok will not, or cannot answer the question. Conspicuous by his abscence one might say.


I have been absent less than one day.

As far as snood's comment, in reply to your question, goes, I attended Catholic masses with my mother when I was 8. The priest says stuff, and the congregation replies in unison. I left the Church at 9, and I fell under the influence of my father, an atheist, who thought the whole business a complete joke. If I seem to remember Catholic Mass the way a child might, you should bear in mind my age when I attended. Most of my memories of what took place are bound to be a bit hazy at this point.

Here's what I may remember chanting during mass:

Quote:
We believe in one God,

the Father, the Almighty
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is seen and unseen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_versions_of_the_Nicene_Creed_in_current_use#1973_draft_ICET_text

Or as I misremembered it: "We believe in...the Almighty, the Kingdom of Heaven and Earth, etc., etc."

But the point remains: you are required to chant stuff about your beliefs in unison. Well, I guess you don't have to. You could just stand there and look like an effeminate dummy without its puppeteer if you felt like it.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 02:41 pm
@Oylok,
Sounds like the best brain-washing method to teach their children to believe as their parents in their religion.
spendius
 
  0  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 02:49 pm
@JTT,
Yeah--it's like a recorded voice. A sensible person would convert to Christianity on the strength of it.

Never was there a stupider saying than "the Devil has the best tunes".

Does anybody know of a witty and amusing atheist writer?

Dylan said that he rode a taxi with Lenny Bruce, once, and it seemed like it took a couple of months.

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 02:53 pm
@spendius,
Atheist writers do announce their atheism.
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reasoning logic
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I had allways thought that the stoning or burning at the stake of non believers was the most influencing act committed by believers!

If I was a nonbeliever and a group of people came through my town burning nonbelievers, my kids would learn very fast to believe in things that were false to keep psychopaths from bringing harm to them. Then I might in secret share the same faith to those psychopaths.
spendius
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Sounds like the best brain-washing method to teach their children to believe as their parents in their religion.


Can't you even use the right words ci. You mean conditioning or indoctrination.

And what makes you think you know what it is the children are taught? Why do atheists always assume that what they think is happening is what is actually happening.

http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/pinafore/web_opera/pin14.html
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Setanta
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:06 pm
@reasoning logic,
People have often speculated about whether Jesuits are truly theists, and i have often thought that the allure of power negates the importance of doctrinal purity for those who become leaders of popular religious movements, or merely powerful people within an established religious hierarchy.
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Intrepid
 
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Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:10 pm
@Oylok,
I can't speak for Catholics as I am not one. I know they do repeat some things the Priest says, but I have never heard them chant the few times that I have been in one of their churches.

You seem to have bad memories from your 8 year old year.
spendius
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:18 pm
@reasoning logic,
rl dear---one simply cannot talk about events 400 years ago and apply them to today's conditions. The non-believer of those days was much more than just a non-believer. He was a destabilising influence on society.

Some say that Mr Assange is a destabilising influence on society today. Thus, in a way, a philosopher, using reasoning logic, might say that the persecutors of atheists 400 years ago have their today's equivalents in those persecuting Mr Assange. Psychopaths you claim and which I will dispute.

The severity of the punishment is neither here nor there as it depends upon traditions. With the punishments of just 150 years ago in operation now millions of Americans would be hanged every year. Mr Madoff would have been pulled into little pieces as slowly as possible with red hot, electrified pincers by his creditors in Central Park.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:26 pm
@spendius,
spendi, You got that all wrong; Assange is destabilizing of governments, and that's a good thing. They have to stop their lying ways, and be open with the public on all their war-mongering and killing of innocents.
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reasoning logic
 
  0  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:32 pm
@spendius,
You bring up the word traditions and I do have to say that I can find both extreme wisdom and extreme foolishness in the bible.
I also find it wise that the traditions of man are foolishness to God
I also think that is where religions come from [ traditions of our environment]
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ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:41 pm
@Setanta,
That's me, of course.
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Setanta
 
  1  
Wed 29 Dec, 2010 04:00 pm
Well, i enjoyed it. Too many of the religionists seem to think that atheists doesn't mean without god, but rather that it means against god . . .
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