I've just seen Peter Bogdanovitch's film about John Ford.
What do American atheists think of Ford's genre?
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dyslexia
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Wed 24 Nov, 2010 02:52 pm
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Indianapolis —
A father of three is fighting the system he claims wrongfully took his young children. He says his visitation was cut because of his religious beliefs. The father argues being agnostic cost him everything.
For the past four years, Craig Scarberry lived his life like many divorced dads; sharing 50/50 custody of his three children. Last week, Craig Scarberry got news that his time with his kids would be cut to just four hours a week and every other weekend.
"Anybody who's been around me and my children for five or 10 minutes can see the love and the bond that's there," Scarberry told Fox59 News.
Searching to find out why, he found Judge George Pancol wrote, "the father did not participate in the same religious training as the mother, and noted that the father was agnostic. It goes on to say that when the father considered himself a Christian, the parties were able to communicate relatively effectively.
"I had never imposed by religious beliefs on my children, matter of fact, our kids go to a Christian daycare, that when we had joint legal, I had to agree to it for the last 3, 4 years," said Scarberry.
Aside from all the friction and emotion with his ex-wife, Scarberry, a veteran of the U.S. Navy, says the constitutional rights he fought for, have been trampled.
Too often these matter are decided at the individual discretion of a judge, rather than uniformly following the law.
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Ionus
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Wed 24 Nov, 2010 10:56 pm
@dyslexia,
I would be very surprised if that judges decision could not be reversed. But you vote for judges over there, dont you ? That puts a lot of pressure on them to follow the people and if they are in a religious area.....
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edgarblythe
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Thu 25 Nov, 2010 06:40 am
I've addressed the issue of an atheist who celebrates Thanksgiving on a different thread. Just want to wish those who celebrate a happy holiday.
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failures art
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Thu 25 Nov, 2010 06:57 am
@dyslexia,
That's really sad. Forget culture wars or whatever, those poor kids caught in the middle of this. I don't have any children, but if I did, the thought of them being distanced from me because of my beliefs would be enraging. Low blow by the wife, says I.
If we can do this, can we take children away from one parent because the parents have different political ideologies?
can we take children away from one parent because the parents have different political ideologies?
We already take children away from a parent because they have the wrong sex.
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Setanta
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Thu 25 Nov, 2010 07:10 am
@failures art,
failures art wrote:
If we can do this, can we take children away from one parent because the parents have different political ideologies?
That may just be a matter of time. The problem here is that a parent who really loves his or her children is not going to put them through the trauma of a civil suit to reverse the judge's arbitrary and capricious decision, which could well take all the years that are left of their childhoods to resolve. So, some old bigoted shithook like that wins by default, because the decent parent isn't going to make a public issue of it.
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Thomas
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Thu 25 Nov, 2010 11:30 pm
Interesting development in my life. Remember this family of friends in St. Louis towards whom I'm in the closet about my atheism? Well, it looks as if I'll be yanked out of my closet. They discovered Facebook, and I just got the first friend request from one of them. If I accept, the first thing they'll see on my wall is the links to Dennett's atheist clergymen, and to the "consider humanism" campaign. If I didn't accept, that would be rude to people whom I do, after all, consider real-life friends of mine. And I couldn't truthfully explain my behavior without spilling the beans, either. So I'll just accept, and whatever happens, happens. Wish me luck!
Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances. I once had a friend who was very religious, but we didn't discuss the subject. Once, he asked me what i was reading and i told him i was reading a book about the Gilgamesh Epic, and then, inevitably, was obliged to explain to him what that was. Eventually, he took the book and looked it over. Later, he brought it back to me, and he was angry. Angry because, as he was intelligent, he saw that one of the points arising from the book was that the stories of the Old Testament were not either unique nor original to the Hebrew scripture. As i tried to discuss this with him reasonbaly, he became more and more angry, and ended by accusing me of being like "that woman," why which he meant Madalyn O'Hair. He would have nothing to do with me thereafter. I did regret that he so violently took offense, but i knew that i had not willfully set out to offend him, so i just let it go.
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hingehead
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Fri 26 Nov, 2010 04:22 pm
Richard Dawkins does a fireside reading of his hate mail
One has to wonder why people who believe in all powerful and just God get so worked up. Don't they think God can handle Dawkins?
Funny, even Ms O'Hair was never caught slinging curses at anyone. How presumptuous of the God Squad.
What would you do without them fm? You might have to think up some proper arguments if it wasn't for those folks and the priests you are always obsessing about. Like we could do without politicians because some of them are on the take. Or nurses because a few murdered the patients. Or music teachers and sports coaches.
It wouldn't surprise me if Dawkins had composed the stuff himself. Have you verified that scientifically?
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hingehead
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Fri 26 Nov, 2010 06:24 pm
@edgarblythe,
I think I'll treat myself to a new T shirt:
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edgarblythe
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Fri 26 Nov, 2010 07:48 pm
Don't be too funny. The atheist police will step in.
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Lash
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Fri 26 Nov, 2010 09:13 pm
@Thomas,
Crap. That's not easy. I'm in the atheistagnostic closet with my family. I cringe whenever those "post this if you love Jesus" waves comes around...
