Atheism

You'll have to---certainly I'm not sharing mine!

PS: Excellent avoiding there!

I think it's very possible to have meaningful discussion about 'god vs no god' without hurtful contentiousness. (Leaving it entirely alone whether or not that's more desirable than a contentious discussion ) It isn't a matter, IMO, of whether or not one takes a side. I think everyone can know where everyone else stands on 'believing or not', and still carry on profitable discussion with those on 'the other side'.

I think where the difficulty arises is when one side or the other finds it necessary to be recognized as RIGHT. I think useful discussions last exactly as long as egos allow the participants to carry on without it being important that the 'other side' concedes.

Whatcha think, ladies and germs? Pie in the sky thinking?

Well Duh . . . we know that . . .



Thanks!

Dude! I had to look up what poutine was - and does it ever sound scrumptious! Where can I get me som'a dat?

Canada . . . it are incredibly good ! ! !

I had some in '05.
I've almost digested it.

Come on up and I'll treat you to some cuz Setanta won't share his.

Now that's what ya call stick to yer ribs!

It would certainly be helpful if both sides could remain calm, but they are both tarred with the same brush. Some make a leap of faith and say there is no God, others make a leap of faith and say there is.....they are both fighting for their kids. They are both irrational. Logic dictates that being Agnostic is the only sensible path, but both camps are devout and incapable of thinking, only feeling.I have had many discussions with religious people about the history of religion and exactly what the Bible means...I find they remain a lot calmer than clowns who worship science. I joined the posts on religion because I was sickened by self proclaimed scientists bashing religious people for being stupid. having an opinion is neither stupid nor justification for a bashing. Obviously these people are religophobic.

When in Canada, any fan of pecan pie is well-advised to also try Canadian butter tarts. They are basically pecan-less pecan pie. On a somewhat more germane note to this thread, Canadians have a highly partisan debate going over The One True Butter Tart Recipe. The warring sides on this issue--runny or firm? with or without raisins?--make A2K religion threads look civil and mellow. I heard it myself on the CBC, so it must be true.

"Logic dictates?" Do you even understand the meaning of the word? "Clowns who worship science?" Show us where anybody on a2k "worships science?" You may cut and paste from any post on a2k.

No. 1: you fail in logic.
No. 2: you are prone to make statements you cannot back up.
no. 3: you are one ignorant arse.

I thought about showing you the video about ganesha but I thought that you may not care for it so I am sharing this one with you.

If you still believe after this I am cool with that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw

Of course there are at least two sides to every issue. Sometimes one side is right and the other wrong and sometimes there is no decision and and nobody wins. I am talking about the combative sides that are sometimes taken. That is why I used the Civil War analogy. Nobody has to be maimed or killed during a debate or civil discourse. Some of us have more passion than civility. I am not excluded from this.

I have always welcomed friendly dialog. I insist on equal footing, is all. The man with whom I share homemade colloidal silver occasionally asks me to come over a few times a week, so that he can help me get right with Jesus. My refusal has not hurt our friendly times together. I know he thinks I need it. I think he needs a little atheism, but I don't tell him that. It would kill the friendship. So there is no equal footing there. But it's my personal choice to allow it. Here, on this forum, the members are held to a higher standard by me. As am I by them.

Dont pretend to be shocked. Your acting ability is in even worse shape than your personality.


wor·ship [wur-ship]
noun, verb, -shiped, -ship·ing or ( especially British ) -shipped, -ship·ping.
–noun
1. reverent honor and homage paid to god or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.
2. formal or ceremonious rendering of such honor and homage: They attended worship this morning.
3. adoring reverence or regard: excessive worship of business success.
4. the object of adoring reverence or regard.
5. ( initial capital letter ) British . a title of honor used in addressing or mentioning certain magistrates and others of high rank or station (usually prec. by Your, His, or Her ).
–verb (used with object)
6. to render religious reverence and homage to.
7. to feel an adoring reverence or regard for (any person or thing).
–verb (used without object)
8. to render religious reverence and homage, as to a deity.
9. to attend services of divine worship.
10. to feel an adoring reverence or regard.

log·ic [loj-ik]
–noun
1. the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference.
2. a particular method of reasoning or argumentation: We were unable to follow his logic.
3. the system or principles of reasoning applicable to any branch of knowledge or study.
4. reason or sound judgment, as in utterances or actions: There wasn't much logic in her move.
5. convincing forcefulness; inexorable truth or persuasiveness: the irresistible logic of the facts.
6. Computers . logic circuit.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/worship

There you go. Knock yourself out, you old fart.

You do know that you can do all this for yourself...just ring for nursey.

I dont believe in God. I am Agnostic.
And thank you for that. I am very interested in religion, and there were a couple of Gods that fast scrolled by where I will have to confirm what they were saying is true.
I would be happy to watch it.

It would be awesome if rational people could discuss god vs no god dispassionately, but I was just mentally following an imagined discussion - and I think the problem centers on how we kindly tell someone that the most important thing in their life - the thing that many times is the founding principal of their existence - to the non-believer is like a fairy tale.

Then, the reasons most non-believers cite for belief are insulting, too.

I sat here staring at it on the screen, thinking I should just delete it, because as nicely as I wanted to frame a response to you - it sounds awful.

I think the sacred importance of the topic in the believer - and the true opinion about the topic in the non-believer very naturally set the two up for deeply felt disagreement. ..and for deep insult to be experienced by the believer.

acktly, Set does share poutine.

Thomas, however, is another story.

C'mon up - Intrepid and I will make dang sure that you get a few poutines to try.

We don't need to see definitions for those words; we are all familiar with them.

You made the statement , and all I have asked for is you to show us who they are.

You come back with definitions.

Do you ever answer direct questions? Or are they too difficult for you? All you need to do is identify who they are, and post from their blog that proves they are "clowns who worship science." Simple.