Ionus
 
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Wed 10 Nov, 2010 09:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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That's not the issue, and you should know better. It's proof that since man is unable to prove there is any god (or any other man-made character that doesn't exist), the logical conclusion is there is no such thing as a god.
Boy are you stupid. The logical conclusion if you cant prove something exists is that you dont know. Is their life on a planet orbiting Alpha Centauri ? Do you think we can not prove it so therefore there can not be, QED ? Do you think it is unacceptable to say you dont know ?
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You have no logic or ability to reason out simple concepts.
God you are joke...isnt there an old people's home you can live in ? They have great field trips.
edgarblythe
 
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Wed 10 Nov, 2010 09:58 pm
@Intrepid,
I have not been barging into religious threads to argue and trash people. Admittedly, in past times I went over the line on a few threads. Which can be measured back in years, I think. You and some of the religious have been civil. The ones that come here with malicious intent know who they are.
Ionus
 
  1  
Wed 10 Nov, 2010 10:05 pm
@edgarblythe,
You have made me think, Ed. I have been unjustifiably harsh to you, but that was probably because of your cheering on those who have attacked me. I will endeavour to treat you with more respect from now on. Whether that means anything, time will tell.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 10 Nov, 2010 10:24 pm
@Ionus,
Planets have nothing to do with this discussion. Try all you might to divert this issue, but it's only because you are not smart enough to respond with intelligence.

You still haven't answered my question about psychology and religion. Are you stuck on that issue too?
farmerman
 
  0  
Wed 10 Nov, 2010 10:39 pm
@Intrepid,
Its funny Intrepid , tha you feel that atheists come and trash every religious thread. Yet herein we have examples of two self proclaimed religious people who have been rude, and disrespectful of those NOT religious. They claim that its the atheists who are "attacking them", yet, the very title of this thread was based upon a discussion of atheism.
If you notice, there are several very specifically religious threads that abound on this board. They all seem to die because why

ATHEISTS USUALLY STAY AWAY BECAUSE THEY HONOR THE PREMISE OF THE THREAD.
Such is not the case whenever an atheism or even "evolution thread is begun. The religious come in and start taking their potshots at the correspondents. This usually leads to some firece encounters and brings out the worst in everyone.

There are several actual trolls who , as set has said, dont really care about any responses and dont care about discourse. They only want their own points heard.

I too, have usually found your responses quite respectful even when we disagree Intrepid. However its been kind of a running gun battle among several disparate yelling sessions(Usually all fomented by a few individuals).
Ive finally put them on ignore and I cansee that they pile up 5 to seven posts in a row, each one disrespectful of a separate correspondent. Yet these individuals claim that it is they who are "being attacked". I hope that you stick around and add your more reasoned opinions to this thread Intrepid. I picture you like Georgeob, reasoned , logical, (even when ead wrong). I cant imagine georgeob getting all violent and PTSD on us. You and he(and several other of the religious folks do discuss and debate points from a nexus of understanding . I think that theres more room for that kind of debate.

Ionus
 
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Wed 10 Nov, 2010 10:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Planets have nothing to do with this discussion.
Try to understand....I know it is hard....I am using an anology so you can grasp a concept. Have you ever used an anology ?

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Try all you might to divert this issue, but it's only because you are not smart enough to respond with intelligence.
Are people going to believe you ? What do you think ?
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You still haven't answered my question about psychology and religion.
If you are serious about counting unanswered questions, you should answer mine. I did answer your question, you are just too pathetically stupid to read.
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Are you stuck on that issue too?
Do you really think you are GAINING credibility by being stupid ?
Ionus
 
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Wed 10 Nov, 2010 10:54 pm
@farmerman,
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ATHEISTS USUALLY STAY AWAY BECAUSE THEY HONOR THE PREMISE OF THE THREAD.
Somoen who is stupid enough to think they are an Atheist yet they offer no prove of a negative, just religious devotion and you want us to believe they have honour ? How is honour an evolutionary mechanism that a non-relgious person would believe in ?

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Ive finally put them on ignore and I cansee that they pile up 5 to seven posts in a row, each one disrespectful of a separate correspondent. Yet these individuals claim that it is they who are "being attacked".
Have you forgotten me already ? Posts are together because I try to address each issue and their is a time difference between here and the Americas. Did they cover that in geology ? Different time zones ? Are you saying you didnt attack me ? Thats rich.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 10 Nov, 2010 10:55 pm
@Ionus,
It's not an analogy to anything except in your attempt to change the subject. Kids play those games. People believe me. I've met many of them in person.

You still haven't answered my question about psychology and religion.

Anus wrote:
If you are serious about counting unanswered questions, you should answer mine. I did answer your question, you are just too pathetically stupid to read.

I've already told you; your question doesn't relate to the topic being discussed. How many times must I repeat this?

On the other hand, you said the answer to the question of psychology and religion is easy.

I'm waiting.

On the question of god and other man-made characters, it's not a matter of "I don't know." There are topics in science that are unknown, but most of those questions have a possibility of an answer. God has nothing except the crap that was stuffed into their brains when they were young. There is no possibility of any evidence now or in the future of this planet.

You should have learned this lesson early, when you were taught that "god is love." But he destroyed this planet with a world flood, and killed off all innocent babies except those who lived on Noah's ark. What a joke! You don't even understand logic.
Ionus
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 01:07 am
@cicerone imposter,
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It's not an analogy to anything
You expect me to bel;ieve you as to what constitutes an anology ? You who cant even get off your fat arse to research something that is blatantly obvious.
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You still haven't answered my question about psychology and religion.
Who the bloody hell do you think you are ? I will not answer your question because I choose to do so.
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I'm waiting.
You can keep waiting. Your posts are turning into a complete useless mess.
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On the question of god and other man-made characters, it's not a matter of "I don't know." There are topics in science that are unknown, but most of those questions have a possibility of an answer. God has nothing except the crap that was stuffed into their brains when they were young. There is no possibility of any evidence now or in the future of this planet.
What the **** is all that about ? Are you mad ? "God has nothing except the crap that was stuffed into THEIR brains" Do you know how to write a sentence ?
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People believe me. I've met many of them in person.
WOW ! I am impressed. You see ? You must be right. Maybe they didnt tell you to your face what an old fart of a joke you are..but I am not shy.

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You should have learned this lesson early, when you were taught that "god is love." But he destroyed this planet with a world flood, and killed off all innocent babies except those who lived on Noah's ark. What a joke! You don't even understand logic.
You are senile.

See if this gets through your thick skull.....I AM NOT RELIGIOUS. God what a fuckwit.
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reasoning logic
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 02:20 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

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We know that god has been created by man's imagination
What's this we white boy ?
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man has also created the tooth fairy
Women created the tooth fairy...ever heard of the tooth fairy killing anyone ?



I could have worded that better I should have said that most agnostic and atheist know that god was created by man's imagination.
I guess that there are probably some agnostic that do not know for sure if jonah was swallowed by a whale and was able to live inside of the whale for three days untill he was able to get out, I would say this is only because they have not been agnostic long enough.


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man has also created the tooth fairy
Women created the tooth fairy...ever heard of the tooth fairy killing anyone ?
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When I say man I mean mankind! It could have been a man or woman I do not with certain which one it was.
Setanta
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 04:32 am
@farmerman,
It's pathetic, too. Someone has been running through the thread voting down everyone's posts except for . . . say, wait a minute . . .
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Thu 11 Nov, 2010 04:52 am
Someone has just been running thru the thread voting you all back up, set. Coulda been me, maybe, dunknow for sure. Tit for tat.
Setanta
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 04:54 am
Personally, i don't do that voting thing . . . but i found it hilarious and pathetic that someone had been "voting down" the other participants . . . all except one . . . hmmmm . . .
spendius
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 05:00 am
@cicerone imposter,
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It's impossible to answer stupid questions. The question lacks any common sense or reality. How is one supposed to answer any question that is not relevant to our reality? Favouring anything must first comply with our reality; otherwise, it's meaningless.


You brought up controlling the masses. Twice. Not me. You brought it up as if it was a negative thing caused by religion.

So I asked you (twice) whether you are in favour of the masses being controlled.

You have ducked the question. Twice.

Explain why it is a stupid question to ask you to clarify your own statement?

If religion is designed to control the masses, as you said, and you are in favour of the masses being controlled, then religion is a good thing surely? The only argument is whether religion is superior or inferior to other methods of controlling the masses and in which respects.

If you are not in favour of the masses being controlled we can have another discussion about anarchy.

And if you can't make up your mind it is time you stopped using expressions like "controlling the masses" pejoratively.
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farmerman
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 05:02 am
@Setanta,
sommady voted me down. Oh wait, that was me.
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Setanta
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 05:30 am
I'd go around an vote you up, FM, but i don't do that ****. If you got self-image problems, you gotta deal with that yerself.
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spendius
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 06:24 am
http://www.leaderu.com/truth/1truth12.html
Ionus
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 06:36 am
@reasoning logic,
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most agnostic and atheist know that god was created by man's imagination.
They dont know that. They believe it. It is their personal opinion.
Ionus
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 06:37 am
@Setanta,
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Someone has been running through the thread voting down everyone's posts
Welcome to my world. As soon as I post I am voted down one. Someone has been voting me back up on this one. Of course you wouldnt notice that, being only concerned about yourself.
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panzade
 
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Thu 11 Nov, 2010 07:32 am
@spendius,
That's a very interesting article and I think I'm the subject of this characterization:

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One person, as a consequence of his particular past, present environment, etc., may find it much harder than most people to believe in God. But presumably, at any moment, certainly at many times, he can choose to move toward God or to move away.


My Christian friends tell me: One doesn't find God, God finds them. I would think I'd be easy to find as I'm in church every Sunday appreciating the moral lessons in the Bible taught by the pastor and singing and playing with the church band.

But, uh uh. I still haven't been swept away by a belief in the existence of an almighty.
 

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