@ossobuco,
To explain myself slightly more, I'm not fully against religion. I have big trouble with piousness, a staple of my youth, and, yes, of me in my youth, and piousness re whatever divergent religion. I get it and don't like it. Pie-osity.
So, theological or teleological arguments, go for it, though I usually won't read the threads now, I used to. Blasting quotes, not good.
New theory - this is Gus working up anti religion fervor..
Come back, Gus, and let us stand before the pearly gates..