WOUD OUR SPECIES BE BETTER OFF IF BREEDING WERE INTENTIONAL?

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WOUD OUR SPECIES BE BETTER OFF
IF ALL HUMAN BREEDING WERE INTENTIONAL ?

If u had it within your power to change our species
so that no child woud ever be born, nor conceived,
except as an INTENTIONAL ACT, woud u do so ?

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@OmSigDAVID,

VAgue question , no context (-15 points)

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@farmerman,

I have to agree with you. (-20 points)

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it seems to be working well in china Rolling Eyes

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

VAgue question , no context (-15 points)

Many people are conceived accidentally.
For instance, I know a young fellow, a NYS Probation Officer,
whose mother attributed his incarnation to the failure of a condom.

If u coud wave a magic wand as a result of which
pregnancy coud occur only from a conscious act
whose intent is the same in principle as in vitro fertilization
wud u do so?

Wud u end accidental pregnancies, if u cud?

Y?

I hope that, as amended, the question is less vague
so that I can get some more points.

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@OmSigDAVID,

You are sort of tredding along the road of logic that once gave us Eugenics, agree ?

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@OmSigDAVID,

How far should we go in controlling the world? Why should we play God? More thought should go into how to educate people rather than change genetics. Do we want a society of robots?

Of course, many people are conceived accidentally. We all know that. Many people get drunk accidentally; crash cars accidentally; cut off fingers accidentally; overdose accidentally; trust lawyers accidentally; die accidentally.

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Guys, this is a thought experiment. If humans could control ovulation for example, would we be better off? It would be like 100% access to birth control pills that no one ever forgets to take.

My first thought is yes. It changes all the taboos around sex. There would be no concerns about pre-marital sex because there would be no concerns about pre-marital children. Women in developing countries would be able to control family size and devote more resources to the children they have. Crime rates would be lower with the reduction in unwanted children. I can't see much downside.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

You are sort of tredding along the road of logic that once gave us Eugenics, agree ?

Yes; I deem that to be a very fine idea.
It shoud not be limited to lower animals.

I don't wish to have any children,
but if I did, then I 'd be very interested in creating circumstances
that begift them with the most optimal advantages that r possible.
If it were possible, I 'd grant them the biological basis for extended good health for a few hundred years, better eyesight,
better hearing, better memory and computational ability, blond hair and blue eyes, agreeable and harmonious facial features
in addition to any other advantages that I can think of.

I 'd also rig it up so that thay cannot be politically correct.

David

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@Intrepid,

Good point!
Thay shoud be programed against trusting; that 's a bad business.

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@engineer,

engineer wrote:

Guys, this is a thought experiment.
If humans could control ovulation for example, would we be better off?
It would be like 100% access to birth control pills that no one ever forgets to take.

My first thought is yes. It changes all the taboos around sex.
There would be no concerns about pre-marital sex because there
would be no concerns about pre-marital children. Women in
developing countries would be able to control family size and
devote more resources to the children they have. Crime rates
would be lower with the reduction in unwanted children.

I can't see much downside.

AGREED

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@OmSigDAVID,

Would your plan eliminate abortion?

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

Would your plan eliminate abortion?

No. It woud reduce the need of it,
but the decision remains in the mother, by right.
(13th Amendment)

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Good point!
Thay shoud be programed against trusting; that 's a bad business.

only lawyers Wink

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

Would your plan eliminate abortion?

No. It woud reduce the need of it,
but the decision remains in the mother, by right.
(13th Amendment)

Where is your logic? You advocate only intentional breeding and then you also advocate abortion. You, therefore, are advocating murder since the conception is selected rather than random or unintentional.

(-50 points)

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If I decided to reproduce myself, I 'd want the best replicator available.
Then I 'd want to polish and improve the inherent traits,
elevating them to higher standards of perfection.
Ideally, a memory dump uploading into the new system woud be in order.

David

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Good point!
Thay shoud be programed against trusting; that 's a bad business.

only lawyers

not only

No good comes from trusting others either.

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@OmSigDAVID,

You certainly jump around. From selective breeding to cloning.

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

Would your plan eliminate abortion?

No. It woud reduce the need of it,
but the decision remains in the mother, by right.
(13th Amendment)

Where is your logic? You advocate only intentional breeding
and then you also advocate abortion. You, therefore, are advocating murder
since the conception is selected rather than random or unintentional.

(-50 points)

In essence, u argue an Equitable Estoppel in favor of the embryo.
Everything considered, as a whole: I favor the liberty
of the mother to change her mind.

Analogize it to a chic who invites over a guest for a party.
If she changes her mind, she is free to require him to leave.

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

You certainly jump around. From selective breeding to cloning.

Well, these are all among the choices available in this universe.

My own choice has been not to breed.
I 'm sure that u will approve of that.

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