@Francis,
David wrote:For instance, I knew a trial attorney who did so fine a job
that his firm gave him a $10,000 bonus, above his ordinary remuneration.
I am confident that the IRS deems that ordinary income, taxed as such.
If his employer was so happy with his achievements that he paid
that attorney 's income tax on the bonus, the IRS woud deem
the tax payment as additional ordinary income which is subject
to taxation and if employer re-imbursed attorney for such additional taxation
this woud go on in a cycle ad infinitum.
U agree with that ?
Francis wrote:
Quote:I'm surprised again that you show such little knowledge about basic stuff.
I have never, never pretended to any expertise concerning taxes,
nor have I ever even
hinted at advising anyone what to do about them.
Francis wrote:
Quote:The principle is: no taxes on taxes.
Have u ever heard of a
surtax ?
Anyway, in my example, the tax woud be on
THE RE-IMBURSEMENT
for any tax, not on the tax itself.
I believe that is how the IRS looks upon it.
David wrote:On the other hand,
if I encounter a stranger passing in the street
and give him $1,000, 000 then I owe a gift tax and the stranger owes nothing, in my opinion.
He did not earn the income.
I believe that is not taxable income, as distinct from the aforesaid attorney 's bonus.
Francis wrote:
Quote:Beliefs unfounded..
It's the same thing, that stranger owes taxes on is income, not you.
Remember that you paid already your taxes on your earning this money, you so liberally give.
We take our net income after taxes and use it to make purchases, for which we are charged sales taxes.
Here in NY, we continue to pay sales tax that was enacted to defeat the 3rd Reich in war.
I can be mistaken, but it is my impression that if an employer
so dearly loves his employee as to pay his taxes for him,
or to re-imburse him for paying tax, then the employee owes
income tax on the amount of the re-imbursement.
That is how I learned, it. I know not whether it has been changed,
but I have been under the impression that the income tax
applies to "earned income" -- which is distinct from a
free gift
which is unrelated to any form of commerce.
As I recall, there is no where indicated on the 1040 form
for listing free gifts.
I have never heard of any individual sending notice
to the IRS of a free gift, except as to a charity
concerning which he desires a deduction.
If I give my girlfriend a mink coat and valuable jewelry,
I am not expected to notify the IRS so that she is held to account
as to her income tax, neither am I entitled to any deduction
(as I woud be if I donated to a charity),
tho I very well might owe a gift tax.
Again: I do not pretend to be certain about this, or any tax law.