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The benefits of meditation.

 
 
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2011 06:34 am
@JLNobody,
Oh no, I meant this sentence that you posted to me:

Quote:
The observation of your frustration in not "accomplishing" extreme passivity and equanimity is what you need to do passivly. Watch it with your "dharma eye" (the name of a painting I made of a one-eyed monk).
igm
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2011 07:03 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
If you’d like to meditate with others then there is a Buddhist Group in Notting Hill that meets once a week (no charge, beginners welcome) to meditate together. Let me know if you’d like the address, tel, etc…
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2011 08:24 am
@igm,
Yes please! PM me!
igm
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2011 08:46 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
The Pentacle Queen wrote:

Yes please! PM me!


PM sent Smile
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2011 09:59 am
@igm,
igm wrote:

The Pentacle Queen wrote:

Yes please! PM me!


PM sent Smile


Thanks Smile
JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2011 05:05 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
Good, that's the way to start, with a group. There very presence provides support.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2011 11:02 pm
@JLNobody,
What I meant to say is that their very presence provides what most people refer to--metaphorically I'm sure--as "energy." To sit with serious sitters promotes a powerful one-pointed and effortless focus on all that passes before you (sounds, feelings, thoughts, sights, even in the darkness of closed eyes, etc.). But the very best practice is the REGULAR meditation you do by yourself every day. Eventually you provide your own energy--and effortlessly.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2011 07:09 am
@JLNobody,
The one thing I do think, although I am unsure, is that life would have more resonance if one didn't practice meditation. There wouldn't be this 'safe centre' to return to, and one could chase their happiness and sadness to extents which would be more glorious than an understanding of the process of mood sequence, which seems slightly bland in comparison. I don't know. I remember reading something similar in Hesse's Sidartha.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2011 11:17 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
There is something to that. I wouldn't want a life that was too tranquilized*--even though meditation made it possible (indeed easy) for me (a hyperkinetic individual who would be considered ADHD today) to meet the requires of my academic career: I could concentrate and enjoy sittng in libraries for long quite hours.
Nevertheless, I would not want to wallow in the so-called emptiness that some people consider a consequence of meditation. I enjoy--deeply enjoy--the attachments of literature and art. I would not want to be indifferent (transendently or not) to life, even its delusions, so long as they move me esthetically. Beauty is, after all, one of life justifications.

*If my goal was simply a comfortable tranquility, I would be a doper.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2011 09:39 pm
@JLNobody,
In short, meditation sets the foundation for an intense subjectivity. By that I mean a deep on-going and free awareness of the contents of experience. It is not "quietism."
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The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2011 06:03 am
@JLNobody,
Yeah, I see your point.

What about love? If we were trying to follow a 'purer' zen path (I don't think we are) how would we deal with this, since it obviously involves some form of 'attachment'.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2011 12:02 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
That's so if by "love" we are denoting a kind of desire for ownership of another because we are "attracted to" (to the extent of being "attached to" or emotionally dependent on) them.
It's pretty hard not to suffer such an attachment--at least in our youth.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2011 06:47 pm
Excuse this interruption, please.
Just popping in to say that I've been following this conversation with great interest, particularly JL's contributions.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

Please continue now ....
JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 15 Aug, 2011 08:31 pm
@msolga,
No interruption at all. Encouragement for which I am grateful.
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The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2011 01:03 pm
@JLNobody,
I've never been in love so I wouldn't know, but are you saying with age you exchange it for something more akin to 'appreciation'.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Tue 16 Aug, 2011 01:17 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
Yes, a deep, intimate, profoundly personal appreciation.
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Savaii
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 07:22 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
Meditation is all about training the mind through concentrated effort (usually relaxed), through training of the mind many benefits occur (for nearly everybody.)

1) Improved memory
2) Improved attention
3) Reduced levels of stress
4) Improved awareness
5) Improved sleep
6) Less headaches
7) Lower blood pressure
8) Improved logical reasoning (Due to blood being moved towards the frontal lobes during meditation)

And in my opinion it has made me much happier, I don't drink at all any more but still have fun with all my friends! (:
Also after meditation I often find my self in a very pleasant relaxed state of what I would consider 'Gentile Bliss.'
Also it is a very healthy way to use your spare time if you are bored!

I Meditate on my breath in sitting meditation, counting my out breaths to 10 then starting again, for usually around 10-20 minutes 2-3 times a day.
When debating politics with my friends I certainly have not become placid in anyway you can be sure of that.

I believe it has improved my standard of living in many ways try it!




Butrflynet
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 08:30 pm
@Savaii,
Welcome to A2K, Savaii.

I see that you are from Christchurch. How is the earthquake recovery going there?
Savaii
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2011 04:36 am
@Butrflynet,
Hey (:
Ah it is coming along, hopefully we will be able to use the city centre soon but i think it may be some time yet.
Loooots of buildings to come down!
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2011 10:51 am
@Savaii,
We have a topic here about it, if you'd like to write some personal accounts about your experience with it.

http://able2know.org/topic/160924-1
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