My God... What An Idiot...

@dyslexia,

I love that someone got a picture of him in the act, and that it's everywhere.

http://www.blackweb20.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/090909-wilson-vmed-627p.widec.jpg

Thousand words, and all that.

@sozobe,

yeah, good fodder for the dems. the thing I wonder about is the concept that Obama HealthCare reform is the hook for the next election for both the dems and the GOP. Has Joe Wilson caused the GOP to go down in flames re HealthCare reform ergo to the 2010 elections? For want of a nail the war was lost sorta thing.

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@dyslexia,

dyslexia wrote:

yeah, good fodder for the dems. the thing I wonder about is the concept that Obama HealthCare reform is the hook for the next election for both the dems and the GOP. Has Joe Wilson caused the GOP to go down in flames re HealthCare reform ergo to the 2010 elections? For want of a nail the war was lost sorta thing.

Maybe something else will happen: the Republican Party will start to disentangle itself from Limbaugh followers such as Rep. Wilson.

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@wandeljw,

no way, dude...

(this is the new them)

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@dyslexia,

One can only hope

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@Rockhead,

You have a point, Rockhead. But if Republicans continue to follow that path, we may no longer have a two party system.

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@wandeljw,

I SO hope you are correct.

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This wasn't really that disastrous. I doubt the Republican party folds up and goes away because of this guys comment. After all, Pelosi compared people that disagree with Obamacare to Nazi's and she is still in control. I believe that will haunt her far longer.

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@McGentrix,

her re-election is coming or not as well.

(and it WAS that disastrous)

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I am a self admitted foul mouthed lout and even I would not disrupt the decorum of the halls of congress during a presidential speech in such a way.

Dipshit. Hopefully he's fucked his political future.

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@Bi-Polar Bear,

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Dipshit. Hopefully he's fucked his political future.

I agree with the rest of your post. But, personally, I hope this guy has a long, very public, political future.

Wilson 2012 kind of has ring to it.

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@JPB,

JPB wrote:

yes

at least until last night. His action was unprecedented.

His exact action of shouting "you lie" to a president in that particular setting might have been, but American politics used to be much more rough and tumble and the senate floor, at least, has seen much worse from a South Carolina representative in the past.

In 1856 Preston Brooks beat Charles Sumner unconscious on the Senate floor with a cane while Laurence M. Keitt held a pistol and prevented other senators from coming to his aid, shouting "Let them be!"

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ebrown it's pussy to want to set up a fight with someone you know is so undermatched.

why not just go kick the **** out of your grandmother's bridge club while you're at it?

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@Robert Gentel,

Robert Gentel wrote:

JPB wrote:
yes

at least until last night. His action was unprecedented.

His exact action of shouting "you lie" to a president in that particular setting might have been, but American politics used to be much more rough and tumble and the senate floor, at least, has seen much worse from a South Carolina representative in the past.

In 1856 Preston Brooks beat Charles Sumner unconscious on the Senate floor with a cane while Laurence M. Keitt held a pistol and prevented other senators from coming to his aid, shouting "Let them be!"

well I would have paid good money just to see Obama challenge Wilson to get up and call him a liar on camera in front of the world.... but Obama is a more high road kind of guy than I am.

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@Bi-Polar Bear,

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I am a self admitted foul mouthed lout and even I would not disrupt the decorum of the halls of congress during a presidential speech in such a way.

Dipshit. Hopefully he's fucked his political future.

as a fellow admittedly foul mouthed lout, i heartily concur. Very Happy

if we were to excuse this guy, it would only encourage more of the same and more. although it might be interesting to have at least one brawl in the rotunda.

"When you're a Jet,
You're a Jet all the way
From your first cigarette
To your last dyin' day. "

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@Bi-Polar Bear,

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ebrown it's pussy to want to set up a fight with someone you know is so undermatched.

why not just go kick the **** out of your grandmother's bridge club while you're at it?

My grandmother's bridge club isn't keeping us from getting a decent health care bill passed.

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@Robert Gentel,

After viewing debate on the floor of the Senate in the 1830s, which included luminaries--as we see it--such as Daniel Webster and John Calhoun, Albert Sidney Johnston (once accounted the greatest Confederate soldier, he bled to death of a minor wound at the battle of Shiloh) wrote to his father-in-law in Louisville to say that he considered Congress to be a good place to find a career for a third or fourth son who had failed at everything else.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix (the Responsible) saith:

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After all, Pelosi compared people that disagree with Obamacare to Nazi's

Sorry, you are either just too shallow and believe the Rightwing propaganda fed to you by Faux News or are lying.

Pelosi did not call anyone Nazis. Pelosi (and Hoyer) wrote the following in an editoirial in USA Today,

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/08/unamerican-attacks-cant-derail-health-care-debate-.html

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"it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue" and that "[d]rowning out opposing views is simply un-American."

Sadly, it is pretty clear that if someone as mature, bright, and what was that word you used in your profile....." responsible" can be brainwashed by the Rightwing propaganda machine, imagine what Addison Graves Wilson was thinking. After all anyone named for two endocrine diseases ought to be a tad twitchy.

I used to wonder why the Right lie so much. I had assumed them to be like the rest of us, viz., capable and desirous to engage in rational and honest debate on the facts. But they don't. They lie, obscure, and extend beyond logic anything that they believe will win the day.

And McGentrix, I accept your apology beforehand for spreading lies. It would be the responsible thing to do.

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@kuvasz,

kuvasz wrote:

Pelosi did not call anyone Nazis. Pelosi (and Hoyer) wrote the following in an editoirial in USA Today,

That editorial isn't where that came from. It was a comment she made on video saying that the town hall folk are astroturfers "carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare".

Still, I agree that it's a stretch to say she compared them to Nazis if you look at the broader context. When you consider that she's likely talking about the folk who took Rush Limbaugh's insipid comparison of the caduceus in Obama's healthcare logo to a Nazi symbol a bit too seriously it becomes clear that she isn't comparing them to Nazi's so much as saying they are folk who are comparing Obama to Nazis.

This particular Godwin is meta enough to be pretty confusing. Rush compared this caduceus:

To this symbol:

And now the partisan hacks online are going back trading blame on who started it with the stuff about Bush:

It's a complete mess of Godwin's law all the way down, alternating between partisan hacks invoking the comparison and accusing the other side of doing so and then others still expressing outrage at either the comparison or the accusation. Absolutely insipid.

kuvasz wrote:

...imagine what Addison Graves Wilson was thinking. After all anyone named for two endocrine diseases ought to be a tad twitchy.

I thought that after the guy with the "funny name" got elected, and the left criticized the partisan attacks on his name, that the left would be wary of doing that kind of thing. Is this something you came up with yourself or is it making the rounds?

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@Robert Gentel,

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It's a complete mess of Godwin's law all the way down, alternating between partisan hacks invoking the comparison and accusing the other side of doing so and then others still expressing outrage at either the comparison or the accusation. Absolutely insipid.

The difference is that the Democratic "partisan hacks" who are yelling Nazi are on the fringe of the Democratic party. Where as the Republican partisan hacks include not only popular TV personalities... but also elected officials.

The two don't compare.

There are Democratic extremists, we keep them on the fringe... but the Conservative Extremists are running the Republican party.

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