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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 01:46 am
Translation is a cloistral profession.
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 01:58 am
@oristarA,
If it's true, it works. At the very least, it is an unusual (I had to google the meaning) description. I suppose you mean you render a neutral, unbiased translation, regardless of whether it pleases your customer, or not?
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Francis
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 02:11 am
Oristar wrote:
Translation is a cloistral profession.


I'm not discussing the "Englishness" of this phrase but its vality as an assertion.

In my opinion, it's far from being true.

The best translations are those where a team can work together and confront opinions and experiences as to obtain the best consensus...

Being secluded and delivering a "translation" leads very often to be labelled as pontificating, to say the least, no matter how professional one is..
roger
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 03:01 am
@Francis,
That sounds like you are asking the translator to editorialize.
Francis
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 03:08 am
@roger,
That was not my intent, but maybe something was lost in translation, my being quite cloistered right now...
roger
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 03:16 am
@Francis,
Consensus sounds like something arrived at by a committee, and "A camel is a horse designed by a committee", in which everyone has "input". Well, there I go, editorializing again.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 03:26 am
@Francis,
Thank you.
Your view is inspirational.

Thank you both.
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 03:49 am

Francis, U R a laff.

I like your stuff. (I learn a lot)
Francis
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 03:58 am
@McTag,
I'm happy that my contribution, though miniscule, can be of some use, in the vast field of humankind's improvement..

I like your contribution too..
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 05:42 am
@McTag,
Hi McTag,
I remember that you were, and surely are, biased towards American English. Because you insisted and insist that English English is the
one and only proper English in the world.
And now you praised Francis for his stuff, who I reckon is an American.
Have you changed your mind toward Yanks' stuff?
Francis
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 06:02 am
Oristar wrote:
And now you praised Francis for his stuff, who I reckon is an American.


No, Oristar, you are mistaken. I'm French.

And McT is a friend of mine...
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 06:23 am
@Francis,
Really? How come can your English be so good? I was told that French people were very proud of their mother tongue as to claim that French language is the most beautiful language on this planet. So they are too cocky to learn English very well.
Francis
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 06:41 am
@oristarA,
Knowing another (or some other) language(s), doesn't prevent from thinking well about one's own.

I'm a well travelled person and have been in the US and other English speaking countries quite a lot of times.

However, my English fluency has improved a lot since I'm on A2K..
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contrex
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 08:03 am
@oristarA,
I am British, a native English speaker, and I agree that French is the most beautiful language. Although I am now learning Catalan, and that is beautiful too.
Francis
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 08:11 am
Contrex wrote:
I am British, a native English speaker, and I agree that French is the most beautiful language.


You are biased, Contrex, you a damn francophile! Mr. Green

(I suspect you had some close encounters with "gente demoiselles"..)
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 03:04 pm
@Francis,

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No, Oristar, you are mistaken. I'm French.

And McT is a friend of mine...


But will I still be a friend of yours after I tell you how to spell "minuscule"?
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 03:06 pm
@oristarA,

Quote:
Hi McTag,
I remember that you were, and surely are, biased towards American English. Because you insisted and insist that English English is the
one and only proper English in the world.
And now you praised Francis for his stuff, who I reckon is an American.
Have you changed your mind toward Yanks' stuff?


Biased against American English? No, I like it, but it's hard to take it seriously.
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Francis
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 03:16 pm
McT wrote:
But will I still be a friend of yours after I tell you how to spell "minuscule"?


You can hardly tell me those things, McT.

You can certainly tell me how to use the words, but you can hardly tell me how to write them.

You mean that I could have used miniscule.

Well, I opted for:

•S: (adj) minuscule, miniscule (very small) "a minuscule kitchen"; "a minuscule amount of rain fell"

You are still my friend..
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 07:34 pm
@Francis,
I have a good news for you, and a bad one.

The good news is: miniscule is a variant of minuscule, as defined by American Heritage Dictionary, and has now commonly occurred in published writings.

The bad news is the variant is widely regarded as an error.

I have to admit that I have read the usage introduction of Webster about the word before posting this. I am not going to pretend that I am a linguist or a know-it-all.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2009 07:45 pm
@contrex,
Quote:
I am British, a native English speaker, and I agree that French is the most beautiful language. Although I am now learning Catalan, and that is beautiful too.
---contrex


I wonder if it stands in statistically speaking.
 

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