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Dear Mr. President

 
 
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2009 04:29 pm
@A Lone Voice,
A Lone Voice wrote:

Quote:

talking, living, breathing, pot stirring, hate mongering, and in general being a fat hypocritical turd. Why do you ask?


I've always said if we ever had Brown Shirts in the US, they would come from the left and not the right.

What with the street violence, lack of allowing diverse thoughts and opinions, and group-think mentality, it is the left that is more likely to fall into a personality cult and blame a specific group or race for their troubles.

People like Bi man would put people like me in a camp in a heatbeat.

We're just seeing their honesty, now that they're in power. Just wait and see what happens if there is a crisis; a bad one.

Of course, it very well might be of their making. Kristallnacht, anyone?...


I would never put you in a camp....but if I woke up tomorrow and found out you'd been taken to one my response would be, according to the time of day either "What's for breakfast?", "What's for lunch?" or "What's for dinner"?
I don't even know you and in this country if you don't know a victim then they're collateral damage, right?
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 1 Feb, 2009 04:43 pm
@A Lone Voice,
A Lone Voice wrote:

I've always said if we ever had Brown Shirts in the US, they would come from the left and not the right.

What with the street violence, lack of allowing diverse thoughts and opinions, and group-think mentality, it is the left that is more likely to fall into a personality cult and blame a specific group or race for their troubles.

People like Bi man would put people like me in a camp in a heatbeat.

We're just seeing their honesty, now that they're in power. Just wait and see what happens if there is a crisis; a bad one.

Of course, it very well might be of their making. Kristallnacht, anyone?...


alv, you're kinda over reacting a little, don't ya think??

btw, as far as i know, obama didn't tell fatso to shut up; what i heard was him saying to republicans something like "you can't just listen to rush limbaugh..."

there's a difference.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 02:40 am
@Bi-Polar Bear,
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

sure dave...he thinks all drug addicts are useless pieces of crap
even though he's been one abd still is for all we know...there's one example...

That 's a GOOD example.
I see the reasoning in that.
That 's a SUPERB response !
Have u ever thought of becoming a trial lawyer ?
( Do u have any other examples ? )

Let me point out tho,
that to the extent that he supports the anti-drug laws
or the War on Drugs, he is NOT a conservative,
in the all important sense that The Founders woud have been AGHAST,
chagrined and alarmed at the concept of a government
controling what a citizen can ingest.
Government was NEVER granted such authority
and such laws exist only as naked USURPATION.

Government was granted the same amount of authority to control ingestion practices
of citizens as was the Hell 's Angels Motorcycle Club.

To the extent that ANY PERSON supports the War on Drugs,
that person supports a DEVIATION from Constitutional principles of personal freedom,
and by reason of such deviation is a LIBERAL.

The Constitution is great for what it PROHIBITS
government from doing to the citizens; it is an instrument
of libertarianism. The domestic power of government
and personal freedom ( including freedom of personal ingestion )
are inversely proportional to one another. Rush is ANTI-conservative
to the extent that he supports USURPATION of power,
against individual freedom, including freedom of ingestion.

I join in denouncing Rush for his LIBERAL DEVIANCY.
I am not kidding around.
I have an absoulute right to go into my backyard,
pick up a handful of America and swallow it, if I wanna.
Its a personal choice. If Rush opposes me on that,
then to that extent, he is a liberal and an authoritarian.
I am confident that Barry Goldwater, Ludwig von Mises, Hugh Hefner and myself
woud NOT support Rush on his authoritarian ingestive philosophy.


Maybe I can call his show and challenge him on his liberalism.
I have no idea whether thay 'd let me do that or not.

My friend, Donald, has told me that he has successfully called in many times.

I have never used illegal drugs
because I am particular qua what I receive into my body
and I consider taking them to be very poor reasoning
with potentially horrible consequences that I am not willing to accept,
but I refuse to relinquish my right to do so.


David
genoves
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 02:55 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSig-

Please excuse my interruption of your fine response to Bi-Polar Bear but I would like to give you a few suggestions since I am certain that you wish to communicate with him. As I noted, your response is very well done, but you really must, if you wish to have him understand your message, revise it by substituting easier words so he can understand.

Problem words might be-

superb

chagrined

usurpation

ingestion

deviation

libertarianism

inversely

proportional

authoritarian

********************************************************

I am sure that you are aware, Om Sig David, that 50% of the American Populace is below the median in their ability to read and understand.

Since I have never seen a post written by Mr. Bi-Polar which was longer than three lines, I suspect that his brevity comes from incapacity rather than shyness.

Just a note---



OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 03:51 am
@genoves,
I will not insult the intelligence
of our favorite Bear.





David
Francis
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 04:07 am
genoves wrote:
I am sure that you are aware, Om Sig David, that 50% of the American Populace is below the median in their ability to read and understand.

With, by inference, the other 50% being able to to so, thus making the average.

Geez, are people good in stating the obvious!
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 09:14 am
@OmSigDAVID,
since I have massagato/genoves on ignore I have no idea what that **** may have said.

I did however give you an example and since you were kind enough to agree with me that any American has the right to put whatever they want into their body....may I suggest that I have the right, without having to defend it, to find any American citizen to be an insufferable piece of **** for reasons that need only be valid to me. Like rush or massagato. God Bless America Wink
A Lone Voice
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 04:08 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
Quote:

alv, you're kinda over reacting a little, don't ya think??

btw, as far as i know, obama didn't tell fatso to shut up; what i heard was him saying to republicans something like "you can't just listen to rush limbaugh..."

there's a difference.


I'm not really bothered by what Obama said; as long as he just keeps it at that level, it's just politics.

But tell me, DTOM (especially considering your name), what do you make of a so-called lib like bi man taking a position such as this?

Quote:

I would never put you in a camp....but if I woke up tomorrow and found out you'd been taken to one my response would be, according to the time of day either "What's for breakfast?", "What's for lunch?" or "What's for dinner"?
I don't even know you and in this country if you don't know a victim then they're collateral damage, right?


This has to bug you, right? His entire outlook on the government has to bug the **** out of you, I would think.

I believe our constitution would prevent anything such as 1933 Germany taking place here. But why do Americans believe we're immune from such things and better than any other people who have ever lived? The power of our constitution comes from us; yet clowns such as bi man would wonder about his next meal as people were being led to camps?

At first, I thought he was pulling my leg, but looking at some of his other posts, and truly understanding 'progressives' as I do, I realize he's not. Give them a cult figure they can obsess over, hard times that make them blame others, and their tendency for short sightedness and demand for immediate results, and I don't think we're immune from a fascist government here in the US.

Who thought it would be 'progressives' leading the charge?

Watch how quickly free speech is quelled when one of them disagrees with you in a public place. Their tendency towards violence during street demonstrations is legendary. These are the roots of fascist thinking.

Coupled with 'progressives' such as bi man, it's not hard to surmise that's it not going to be the left that's going to come to the rescue of the constitution...

Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 05:10 pm
Lone Voice honey... I care about our country and it's fate...and in the ethics and morals we were supposedly founded on at one time may have at least attempted to live by.

It's you I don't give a **** about. But don't feel badly...you're not the only one...although you're in the minority. I like most people.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 07:47 pm
@Bi-Polar Bear,
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:


Quote:
since I have massagato/genoves on ignore
I have no idea what that **** may have said.

A female? In days of Abuzz, it never occurred to me
that Massagato was female, but I have no gender-related
information on the subject.

I always stood in awe when other Abuzzers recognized imposters
and identified them as one person or another.
I attributed this to the relative paucity of my computer-related skills.
I coud never do that, with only one exception, wherein she made it ez.

The breadth of your vocabulary was called into question; nothing worse.





Quote:

I did however give you an example and since you were kind enough to agree with me that any American has the right to put whatever they want into their body....may I suggest that I have the right, without having to defend it, to find any American citizen to be an insufferable piece of **** for reasons that need only be valid to me. Like rush or massagato. God Bless America Wink

Yes.
I join in your opinion that:
u "have the right, without having to defend it,
to find any American citizen to be. . . insufferable . . .
for reasons that need only be valid to" yourself.
I strongly agree with u.
When I asked about other examples,
it was only an invitation, in that I was so favorably impressed
with your first example that I wondered whether u had more like it.
Your first example was so enjoyable that I hoped that u had more;
( I hope that u will forgive my greed ).
My question was offered in the spirit of an invitation, not a demand,
or not like a summons to an audit from the IRS.

I did not imply that u HAD TO defend it.
I just thought that u might actively desire to do so,
the same way that I was not extorted into defending
the 2nd Amendment: I chose to do so volitionally.
I hope that u will accept my candor on that point.
Perhaps u imply that if u wanted to say something,
u 'd already have done so, and u need no prompting from me.

As a libertarian, I know that every citizen has a fundamental right
to have an opinion of anyone, be it good, bad or indifferent,
for reasons satisfactory only to himself.
Indeed, by way of example of this point:
for well over 20 years I was out-of-my-mind-in-love
and obsessed with a blonde, blue-eyed young lady,
descended of the Austrian Aristocracy
who had made social overtures to me around 50 years ago.

In time, she very politely rejected further association with me.
Her manners were always superbly elegant and gracious.
She is what Thomas Jefferson described as "a Natural Aristocrat".
I resolutely n avidly support her right to hold me in low esteem,
or even lower esteem, for any reason that is satisfactory to her, or for no reason.





David
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 07:51 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
A female? In days of Abuzz, it never occurred to me
that Massagato was female, but I have no gender-related
information on the subject.


The level of comic relief here is so high . . . sometimes you just can't believe it . . . you can't make up **** this precious . . .

You'd think by now I'mSickDavid would have learned how to manage the quote function . . .
genoves
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 12:24 am
@Setanta,
His name, Mr. Setanta, is OmSigDavid, not I'mSickDavid,but an Anti-Semite like you would not deign to spell his name correctly, would you?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 01:30 am
@genoves,
genoves wrote:

His name, Mr. Setanta, is OmSigDavid, not I'mSickDavid,
but an Anti-Semite like you would not deign to spell his name correctly, would you?

I have him on Ignore.
Tho he has shown some fairly decent historical knowledge,
his churlish rudeness makes him socially intolerable.
I doubt that he is able to control himself.
I suspect a mental disorder, but that is none of my business,
as long as I avoid contact with him and he is confined
to the nether regions of oblivion.

I am not Jewish nor Arab; descended from the English.
Most of my friends are Jews,
but I have no Jewish relatives.





David
genoves
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 01:35 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I sincerely apologize, OmSigDAvid. I hope you were not offended. However, your characterization of Mr. Setanta is unerring and precise!!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 01:40 am
@genoves,
genoves wrote:

I sincerely apologize, OmSigDAvid. I hope you were not offended.
However, your characterization of Mr. Setanta is unerring and precise!!

Thank u for your kind words.

I am not offended in the least.





David
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genoves
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 01:42 am
@Francis,
You really must forgive me, Mr. Francis. I should have enlarged on the thought.

My message to Om Sig David was after the post made by Bi Polar Bear. Any thoughtful and unbiased reader would, after viewing almost any submission made by Bi Polar Bear, consign him to the lower half of the median in the ability to read and understand.

You may not be aware, Francis, that in the US hundreds of studies clearly show that the majority of African-Americans and Hispanics rank below the median in their ablity to read and understand.

Those people, incidentally, are the ones who made it possible for Obama to become President.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 08:09 am
@OmSigDAVID,
gotcha. and in the context of my use, you don't have to be female to be a ****. who knows or cares of massagato's gender? Wink

although we disagree on many things I have no problem with you at all David and hope you feel the same.

I must add, I am quite fond of Setanta.

a great thing is that we can pick and choose who we like or dislike around here without worry of how it may effect our other internet forum relationships.

You may not believe this, and I hope you're sitting down....but there are people here who don't like me. Laughing
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 08:27 am
Well, i certainly don't like you . . . but as that's no skin off either your ass or mine, there's no reason we can't party here . . .
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 08:37 am
@Setanta,
true enough...just please don't sit on any of the furniture....you shed....
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 08:42 am
No, it's the other dog that sheds . . . the blond . . . that's pretty damned hypocritical, coming from a bear . . .
 

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