Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

@izzythepush,

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I had posted it before, but I was forgetting you're new.

True, however, it is a video which should be posted at regular intervals, to keep reminding us, keep us on our toes.

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@Arjunakki,

Arjunakki wrote:

I beg to disagree. The EU has begun a slow but sure process of isolating Israel; much depends on these so-called peace talks but if they fail, then limited trade will be put into effect.

No, if you succeed in your efforts to collapse the peace talks, Europe will not punish Israel for it.

The only thing that will result from the collapse of peace talks is that the Palestinians still won't have a state.

Do you secretly hate the Palestinians or something?

Arjunakki wrote:

As for the US, well, Israel controls foreign policy, almost. They have not forced the Obama administration to strike Iran yet

I point out, again, that Israel is not pressuring the US to bomb Iran.

Rather, Obama is pressuring Israel to let the US be in charge of bombing Iran.

Israel would be happy to carry out the bombing themselves. And if they ever conclude that Obama is about to renege on his promise to take care of Iran, Israel will not hesitate to deal with Iran themselves.

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@RABEL222,

RABEL222 wrote:

I havent forgotten that they took the lessons learned from Hitlers Germany and have applied them to the Palestine.

You really are despicable, even for a retard.

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@Advocate,

What the hell has Syria got to do with Palestine. Unless of course you are equating Assad's Syria to Israel. And the nut posters continue to answer facts with insults.

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@Arjunakki,

Arjunakki wrote:

P.S. Advocate, you must stop referring to posters holding constructive criticism of Israel as anti-Semites. If you continue along this path, the noun "anti-Semite" will lose its effectiveness, its punch, and any impact it might have had will be lost.

Your hateful lies about Israel are not in any way "constructive criticism".

And since those lies are in fact anti-Semitism, it is right that they be called anti-Semitism.

Dismissing anti-Semitism as anti-Semitism is actually highly effective. In fact it is the proper way to respond to anti-Semitism.

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@oralloy,

You sound just like Oralboy, OmSig.

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@RABEL222,

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I haven't forgotten that they took the lessons learned from Hitlers Germany and have applied them to the Palestine.

Right we must not forget that Israel today is an angry militant outgrowth formed from the ashes of Auschwitz. The tiny nation's motto is "Never Again" and so they are doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to them except there are no ovens. And since the Zionist nation is so land hungry, it's not outside of reasonable thought that once Israel has taken over all of the West Bank and Golan heights they will make a run for the oil rich countries. What's to stop them with their being a super power in the middle east and the powerful US as their puppet?

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@Arjunakki,

Arjunakki wrote:

they are doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to them except there are no ovens.

Enough with your evil anti-Semitic lies. There is no genocide being perpetrated, attempted, or even contemplated against the Palestinians.

I know you are spewing as much hate as you can in your attempts to collapse the peace talks, but this is really despicable.

Arjunakki wrote:

the Zionist nation is so land hungry, it's not outside of reasonable thought that once Israel has taken over all of the West Bank and Golan heights they will make a run for the oil rich countries.

Israel has not captured land since 1967, and only then in a just war of self defense against those who refused to make peace with them.

Since then, Israel has repeatedly shown a willingness to hand land over in exchange for peace.

Those who refuse to make peace with Israel, should accept the reality that they will not be getting any land handed over to them.

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@Arjunakki,

Now you've got a taste of the sort of unreasoning bigot that supports Israel. Oralboy called all Palestinians vermin, and Advocate has pointedly refused to condemn that statement, although he has made lots of jokes about it.

Oralboy fantasises about killing babies and thinks it would be a good idea to nuke Italy and Russia.

You're not dealing with rational people.

As for anti Semitism, Advocate is quite happy for RL to post videos like this without comment.

http://able2know.org/topic/220027-35#post-5423864

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@oralloy,

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I know you are spewing as much hate as you can in your attempts to collapse the peace talks,

Do all the participants in the peace talks have A2K memberships or are you relaying all this info onward?

You are completely insane, Oralboy.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

How terrible is right! Palestinians have rocks, and Israelis have nukes. Terrible!

You are not concluding your great insight. Should Israelis have rocks too, or should Palestineans have nukes too? However, as you know, Israel has used no nukes, but Palestineans have taken aim at Israelis with rocks. But then Israelis fire at the rock throwing Palestineans, and that is supposed to make Israel the aggressor. It all comes down to the fact that some people are livid with rage that Israel is the dominant party in the area. Perhaps, they should get over it. Sort of like American-Catholics accepting the dominance of WASP America. Humility would go far in resolving issues. But, that won't likely happen, since some folks just cling to the idea that Jews must be the "underdog," or the world is not right.

It must really be hard for you to accept the cognitive dissonance that the Israeili Jews are nothing like the Jews that you've met in the U.S. Let me apologize for the cognitive dissonance. But, you do have many like minded folk on this forum. Enjoy each other's company. Have a great day. Sayonara

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@izzythepush,

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Now you've got a taste of the sort of unreasoning bigot that supports Israel. Oralboy called all Palestinians vermin, and Advocate has pointedly refused to condemn that statement, although he has made lots of jokes about it.

On the web there are myriad posters with a fanatical devotion to an irrational, primordial rage, always on the ready to tear into others because they disagree. One should not allow such posters to upset one's emotional counterbalance....to get under one's skin as they say. I believe there is an apparatus on this site by which one can avoid such posters. As for Advocate, I don't find him daunting at all ---he's just doing what he's programmed instinctively to do.

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izzythepush wrote:
Oralboy fantasizes about killing babies and thinks it would be a good idea to nuke Italy and Russia.

To any ordinary discerning poster, Oralloy most likely has emotional or mental issues --- personally, it's not a good idea to take what he has to say to heart.

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izzythepush wrote:
You're not dealing with rational people.

Rationality might be in the eye of the beholder. To the owner of such rhetoric, he/she's right and you're wrong if we observe things from the former's point of view.

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@Arjunakki,

Of coarse rationality is in the eye of the beholder, but one must be able to see how one or another can be irrational from their perception about certain issues - such as the topic of this thread. It's a simple matter of ethics and humanity on the subject of Israel's continued expansion of settlements on Palestinian lands.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Of coarse rationality is in the eye of the beholder, but one must be able to see how one or another can be irrational from their perception about certain issues - such as the topic of this thread.

But you were not to supposed to take me literally, Ci, but to "think." --- There are two sides to what I said....When I said "rationality is in the eye of the beholder" it was a teaser.

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It's a simple matter of ethics and humanity on the subject of Israel's continued expansion of settlements on Palestinian lands.

No one ever denied this, at least certainly not by me. I am in the forefront of fighting for Palestinian justice.

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@Arjunakki,

If you want Arj, I can pm you a link to a fair trade website that sells Palestinian produce.

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@Arjunakki,

You'll learn very quickly that I'm a black and white kind of observer, but it's easy to "straighten me out" by providing clarification. Mr. Green

During my working years, I worked as an accountant. Greys were not tolerated too well!

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@cicerone imposter,

Perhaps, Ci, I should be more simplistic in my response to you. "Irrationality" means: without the faculty of reason; utterly illogical.

That type of poster I steer from and instead of getting into an emotional standoff with them, I usually make a joke of it. Total ignorance is something that throws many of us off base. The entire world has taken note of Israeli illegal settlements, the suppression of the Palestinian people and the US paying lip service while giving Israel 3 Billion annually ----that is simply too damn much! When we encounter posters like Oralloy, it's best to just ignore his existence because posters similar to him doesn't mean himself any good or else he would quit running posters away from him as if he had the middle ages' black plague.

As for Advocate, he's not abnormal, and on the contrary, is the typical Israeli pro-Zionist.

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@Arjunakki,

Simplistic would be good! Rolling Eyes

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Now you've got a taste of the sort of unreasoning bigot that supports Israel. Oralboy called all Palestinians vermin, and Advocate has pointedly refused to condemn that statement, although he has made lots of jokes about it.

Oralboy fantasises about killing babies and thinks it would be a good idea to nuke Italy and Russia.

You're not dealing with rational people.

As for anti Semitism, Advocate is quite happy for RL to post videos like this without comment.

http://able2know.org/topic/220027-35#post-5423864

Izzy has never criticized Mein Kampf. Thus, it is clear that he is a raving anti-Semite.

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@Advocate,

Hitler's Volume 1 of Mein Kampf was published in 1925 and Volume 2 in 1926.

Izzy is/was referring to your "LOUD" silence today, in this time frame, not when Hitler was serving time in prison. Your refusal to speak up when there is a clear need to do so gives us a deep insight into who you really are, Advocate, and to what you stand for. I have found **most** Zionists will stick their heads in the sand when the truth is spoken or run away with their tail between their legs.

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