Let's get rid of the Electoral College

@Frank Apisa,

This should be fun. Hold on a minute though. I need to get some popcorn.

http://www.peoriadefense.com/photo_host/BuildingaBetterCorn.PopcornThatis_C73D/popcorn.jpg

Okay, go for it, Frank!

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@Butrflynet,

Jeez...that popcorn looks so good...it calmed me right down!!!!

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@Frank Apisa,

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The other guy--the one badmouthing Americans is invited!

I think FoW is a lady Frank but I suppose this uni-sex "guy" thing you have going over there is what confuses me.

The great thing about uni-sex is that it causes ladies to be a bit "forward". The bad thing is that it causes the sperm count to go down. Which is a bit of a problematical situation really. It's like trusting banks just on the cusp of them becoming untrustworthy.

There is something odd going on though you must admit.

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@Fountofwisdom,

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Setanta even argues that a corrupt criminal like Nixon shouldn't be barred.

Would you be kind enough to please point out where Setanta has argued this? I don't seem to be able to locate that quote.

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@Fountofwisdom,

Fountofwisdom wrote:

The contras were by any definition terrorists:

Yes; we shoud be properly grateful for all
of the terror with which thay invested the communists.
The Contras successfully attacked evil, may blessings be upon them.
Thay were fine Freedom Fighters!
Thay have my Love n Admiration!

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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In your post, u implicitly ADMIT that u have LIED to us
( saying: "If he didn't, he sure could have . . . " )
in that he NEVER said what u deceptively claimed that he said.

David, please stop trying to analyse language. You either lack the intelligence or the diligence necessary to think things through.

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@Fountofwisdom,

Fountofwisdom wrote:

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In fact the defeat of Germany in the second world war
was probably down to the glorious red army.

Is that a hint of your committment to communism, Comrade Founty ?
That sounds like it IS,
and it explains a lot of your prior posting.
Will u tell us how u felt on Christmas Eve of 1991, Comrade ?

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America only joined the first world war in 1917,
when it was largely over.

True; it did not last long after we arrived.
Now, according to YOU,
if our contribution was as little as u have implied,
woud the war have ended the same as it did,
if America had joined on the side of the Germans ??????
Will u tell us THAT ?
I bet u will say nothing n hope the question is forgotten.

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America joined the second world war because of pearl harbour. Britain and its brave allies, the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and Indians and Pakistanis, Were fighting fascism from 1939. the Americans joined in 1941.

Do u claim that we had a DUTY to assist the English ?

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You get what you consider history from Hollywood.

Do u KNOW ME well enuf to assert this ?
What is the source of your information on this point ?
Have u kept me under your surveillance ?
Do u look in my windows to see what I read or what I watch ??

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In fact America showed the kind of disgusting corrupt state
it is by overcharging Britain for the munitions.

U make it clear that u do not understand English,
by your misuse of English words; how can charging a price
be "corrupt" ????

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I think we agree on quite a lot really.

U do? Really, huh ?

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You believe Americans are too selfish

No; that is an error in YOUR PERCEPTION.
I believe that Americans (like ME need to be much MORE selfish).

and short sighted to elect a proper government.
I thought It was cause they were too stupid. But
Well, admittedly,
the election results 2 months ago were contemptible.

David

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@Merry Andrew,

The noxious flatulence emanating from Satan's Anus is in Bollox, which I believe is the language spoken by Americans.
I believe he is arguing that the Americans have a constitutional right to ellect half wits and criminals.
My argument is that the college is a bad system because it produces bad leaders. Plus takes a year.
She-tantrum is arguing that Americans are too dumb to elect a president in less than a year.
SimpleDave is arguing that he is a republican and therefore right. Plus he believes Americans are too selfish and short sighted to elect a government. He mocks the words of Abe Lincoln. He says the oath of allegiance is idiotic.
I have never bad mouths Americans, in fact I freely admit that Mickey Mouse is the pinnacle of American culture,

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@OmSigDAVID,

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FoW wrote: In fact America showed the kind of disgusting corrupt state it is by overcharging Britain for the munitions.

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David replied: U make it clear that u do not understand English,
by your misuse of English words; how can charging a price
be "corrupt" ????

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Once again, David, please stop trying to analyse language. I thought that you were only bad at grammar but it appears that your lack of knowledge extends to vocabulary as well.

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M-W:

Main Entry:
corrupt
Function:
adjective

1 a: morally degenerate and perverted : depraved b: characterized by improper conduct (as bribery or the selling of favors) <corrupt judges>

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[added emphasis is mine]

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@OmSigDAVID,

I think history shows that the Red army were a formidable fighting unit. Germany was largely beaten on the Russian front, Western European Democracy is built on Russian blood.
I argue that civilised nations would have fought fascism. In no way would I expect the Sores and Snipes to be behind Britain. America believes the word ally to mean mug.
Seeing as you now admit to being wrong about Oliver North I hope you will be gracious enough to retract your slanders.
Your knowledge of history is laughable: have you been taking lessons from S@@t-ansa

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@OmSigDAVID,

In English corrupt can mean immoral, it is from the latin for rotten or decaying.I will try to use words from sesame street,perhaps with pictures for Americans in future.
Has there been a film involving Russia and the second world war made in Hollywood? I've never seen one.
You are right>I withdraw the shot about films. I know you only well enough to understand your ignorance: this may stem from many and varied sources, including a crap educational system

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@JTT,

English is not his first language I believe.

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@Fountofwisdom,

It is and David can use it pretty well. He just has to stay away from attempting to analyse it.

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@JTT,

U make it clear that u do not understand English,
by your misuse of English words; how can charging a price
be "corrupt" ????

This is not English by any generally understood term of the word. I have been accused of not understanding English by an illiterate. This is ironic. I think you mistake quality for volume. He uses language loudly, not well.
I have no problem with his attempts to analyse language, it may have some educational benefit. As would a thimblefull of understanding. In a couple of years and a bit of patience and support we may even move on to ideas like debate and discussion.

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@Fountofwisdom,

Fountofwisdom wrote:

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I believe he is arguing that the Americans have a constitutional right to ellect half wits and criminals.

You may believe this, if you wish, but I, for one, cannot find any citation where he could be accused of having actually articulated any such claim.

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My argument is that the college is a bad system because it produces bad leaders.

It isn't the Electoral College which "produces" bad leaders. Forty one times out of 43 the results of the votes cast by the College were identical to those cast by the general electorate, had the votes of that electorate been counted as electing the chief executive. So it would probably be fair to say that it is the American people who "produce" bad leaders (i.e. if one were to admit that all American leaders have been "bad"). There's no accounting for taste.

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I have never bad mouths Americans, in fact I freely admit that Mickey Mouse is the pinnacle of American culture,

If you don't consider your statements on this and other threads as "bad mouths," I would certainly be leery of receiving any compliments from you. And, no, the sarcasm was not lost on me; I just choose to ignore it.

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You make some fair and interesting points: Can I now press you on whether the system should be speeded up: and what steps could be taken to prevent the queues and chaos: which surely no one wants:
Seeing as your argument is that mostly the system produces the same result as one person one vote then, surely that would be the better system: being cheaper,simpler and easier.
I am glad you are capable of intelligent discourse: it is a refreshing change from the moronic Set ansa.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

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In your post, u implicitly ADMIT that u have LIED to us
( saying: "If he didn't, he sure could have . . . " )
in that he NEVER said what u deceptively claimed that he said.

David, please stop trying to analyse language.
You either lack the intelligence or the diligence necessary to think things through.

JTT, please go jam your head into the toilet.
You either lack the intelligence
or the diligence necessary to tell men what to do. Thank u.

OK; u can pull it out now.

David

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@JTT,

JTT, please go jam your head into the toilet.
You either lack the intelligence
or the diligence necessary to tell men what to do. Thank u

Awesome use of........ American. At least David doesn't pretend he can use English, Which is the language of Shakespeare: not Ice cube.

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@Fountofwisdom,

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I now press you on whether the system should be speeded up: and what steps could be taken to prevent the queues and chaos:

They like it Fountie. It's a social occasion. What else could it be when one vote means what it does. I saw some in 6 hour queues and the machines are a bit iffy.

Fancy being in a queue that long to become a hung chad or an electronic liquidate.

I never vote. I would never vote for people presiding over one abortion never mind millions.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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I now press you on whether the system should be speeded up:
and what steps could be taken to prevent the queues and chaos:

They like it Fountie. It's a social occasion.

I suppose it CAN be a social occasion,
tho, here in NY we usually keep our mouths shut, while we wait in line.
While waiting to vote 2 months ago,
a 12 year old boy with his mother said that he desired to vote.
I said that if it were up to me he coud vote, that he has a MORAL right to vote.
It is HIS government.
No citizen has any MORAL duty to obey the law if he
was rejected from joining in democratic elections.

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What else could it be when one vote means what it does.
I saw some in 6 hour queues and the machines are a bit iffy.

Fancy being in a queue that long to become a hung chad or an electronic liquidate.

I never vote.
I would never vote for people presiding over one abortion
never mind millions.

What is the law concerning abortion in England, Spendius ?
Is it different than in America ?

I must respectfully dissent from your expressed position,
in that I defend anyone 's right to self-defense,
including any chick's right to defend her personal body
from any intrusive parasite, including human embryos.
Thay can cause her possible pain, and thay have caused chick's deaths.

However, we may be straying a little off topic from the Electoral College.

David

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