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@rabel22,

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claiming that only jews were killed.

Would you like you to quote one just one Jewish leader who had claimed that only Jews was kill in the holocaust!

I am waiting with great interest to see you back up your claims that the Israeli state as a state or any leader of that state or any Jewish leader of any standing at all worldwide had taken that position.

How silly can you be?

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As silly as cherry picking 6 words from a many word post.

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@rabel22,

The state of Israel has NEVER claimed that only Jews were killed.
As a matter of fact, they have a monument to ALL the victims of the holocaust, not just the Jewish ones.

Again, you are talking about something you know nothing about

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@rabel22,

Sorry, but you had stated time after time you can not feel sorry for a people who had have roughly half their population murder because they are somehow claiming that they was the only victims of this mass killings program.

That is nonsense and if not then you should be able and more then willing to defend your statement.

Not cheery picking at all so where and when did any Jewish leader with any standing claim that they are the only victims of the Nazis?

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@BillRM,

I can't name another group. I have no idea how many were killed by Pol Pot.

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BTW, I think it is telling that my post about my relative who died as Auschwitz was voted down.

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@plainoldme,

I need to go back and look at my wordings but I think I intended to limit myself to the Nazis.

A lot of peoples had been wipe off the face of the earth to the last man woman and child in the long and bloody history of the human race.

A good fraction of whom was wiped off the earth in the name of God or a God at least.

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@BillRM,

BTW, I am not jousting with you. When I posted the story of my shirt-tail relative's death, I was just putting out info.

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@plainoldme,

They only accept information that conforms to thier beliefs, which is why I dont argue with them. I state my views and move on. Anything else is a waste of time.

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Ithink we might all ask what ever happened to competition? If competition is supposed to be at the heart of capitalism and if UNregulated capitalism or the free market is supposed to produce the best . . . why was General Motors every General Motors which then gobbled up . . . whatever foreign mfger it ate?

If GM had remained separate companies named Pontiac and Chevrolet and whatever, wouldn't the automotive industry have been stronger, more flexible and more able to confront the problems it needed to confront . . . ie fossil fuel . . . rather than act as a self centered and self serving behemoth?

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@plainoldme,

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If competition is supposed to be at the heart of capitalism

it was, with some special exceptions made for things like utilities which were regulated monopolies. We got away from competition, and other critical components of capitalism such as transparency and considering employees to be vested in the enterprise. We don't really do capitalism anymore, we don't believe in it.

But we are not honest with ourselves about our lack of faith in Capitalism either.

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**** GM. There cars SUCK. They did it there way and they FAILD!!!!

The people will get new jobs for the new car company that deserves dedicated employes for new ideas.

THIS IS THE FREEMARKET! MOVE FORWARD!

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@rabel22,

I state my views and move on. Anything else is a waste of time.

You stated a suppose fact not an opinion that the Jewish state and Jewish leaders was somehow claimings they was the only ones who suffered in the death camps of the Nazis.

That on it face is nonsense and I call you on it.

I can see however why you would like to move on my anti-Semitism friend.

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@hawkeye10,

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We got away from competition, and other critical components of capitalism such as transparency and considering employees to be vested in the enterprise. We don't really do capitalism anymore, we don't believe in it.

Business and business leaders have no desire for competition of any kind and to prove that just look at the early history of this country with the big business trusts. Railroad , Oil and on and on and on.

Only the government have the power to enforce at least some level of competition in the market place.

Of course when most of the congresspersons are in the pocket of special interests that is a hard thing for them to do.

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@BillRM,

Call all you want to. Is anti-Semitism the same as raceist ? Does this mean that anyone who dosent agree with the Isralie government is a raceist? And show me where I said that that jewish state said only Jews were killed. What I said was that the Isralie state uses the Holacaust for political purposes. When they talk about the holocaust they always refer to the 6 million jews killed not the 7 million others who lost thier lives. Create all the strawmen you want. More time wasted. At least we agree on congresspersons leagleized crooks.

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@hawkeye10,

And that might be the most honest statement I have ever seen from the right.

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@plainoldme,

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And that might be the most honest statement I have ever seen from the right.

I am not from the Right, I am from the Extreme left, which has more in common with the extreme right than with moderates of either stripe.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

I am not from the Right, I am from the Extreme left, which has more in common with the extreme right than with moderates of either stripe.

Am I the only one perplexed by this statement? Does this make sense to everyone else but me? So, hawkeye, curiosity gets the best of me, can you explain this in as short of a paragraph as possible, because it makes about as much sense as saying oil has more in common with water than any mixture of the two.

Maybe the key word is "Extreme" in how it is interpreted. I would prefer to interpret it as meaning idealogically "pure" or "consistently" instead of "radical" or "crazy." This would be in comparison to "moderate" which often means "wishy washy" or standing for nothing except which ever way the winds blow.

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@okie,

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Am I the only one perplexed by this statement? Does this make sense to everyone else but me? So, hawkeye, curiosity gets the best of me, can you explain this in as short of a paragraph as possible, because it makes about as much sense as saying oil has more in common with water than any mixture of the two

as a radical on the left I am much more more in tune with radicals on the right than I am with moderates. Radicals of all stripes believe that there is something profoundly wrong with America, and share a respect for others who see this and want to fix this, even if the most important parts of the problem and best fixes are not agreed to. When I talk with radicals on the right we pretty much have a common view of the problem, of the nature of the breakdown.

I suspect that your confusion stems from you thinking that I am talking about extreme reds and extreme blue being close, and this is not what I am saying. In my experience extreme righties have no more use for the GOP then I have for the DEMS, were are not partisans, we instead share a contempt for both parties.

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@hawkeye10,

Sorry Hawkeyes the far right is cheerfully trying to drive out any sane members of the GOP leaving only themselves in the party.

Love it as that will be the end of the GOP as a national party as a party only of self declare poor white men is not going to win national offices.

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