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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 07:04 pm
@RexRed,
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One prayer to Jesus and brain tumors simply dissolve! Why are there even christian mercy hospitals if faith of the bible is the only necessary cure?


How often do you think that it is that someone with a brain tumor prays to God and then goes to an atheist to have the tumor removed?
I think that it is more often than when someone goes to a theist to have it removed!
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 07:09 pm
Rex was your dad good to you as a child and then things changed when he found out that you were gay or was he always bad toward you?
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 07:09 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
One prayer to Jesus and brain tumors simply dissolve! Why are there even christian mercy hospitals if faith of the bible is the only necessary cure?


How often do you think that it is that someone with a brain tumor prays to God and then goes to an atheist to have the tumor removed?
I think that it is more often then when someone goes to a theist to have it removed!


Positive thinking does not a god make...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 07:11 pm
@RexRed,
Please in layman's terms!
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 07:25 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
One prayer to Jesus and brain tumors simply dissolve! Why are there even christian mercy hospitals if faith of the bible is the only necessary cure?


How often do you think that it is that someone with a brain tumor prays to God and then goes to an atheist to have the tumor removed?
I think that it is more often than when someone goes to a theist to have it removed!


Did I make this post clear Rex? if not I will try to expand on it!

From what I understand from my studies of neuroscience is that all the neuroscientist that I have studied have been atheist, I do realize that there could be some that are theist but I would think that when someone understands how our brains work they begin to realize the bullshit that the mind can think up!
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 07:38 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
One prayer to Jesus and brain tumors simply dissolve! Why are there even christian mercy hospitals if faith of the bible is the only necessary cure?


How often do you think that it is that someone with a brain tumor prays to God and then goes to an atheist to have the tumor removed?
I think that it is more often than when someone goes to a theist to have it removed!


Did I make this post clear Rex? if not I will try to expand on it!

From what I understand from my studies of neuroscience is that all the neuroscientist that I have studied have been atheist, I do realize that there could be some that are theist but I would think that when someone understands how our brains work they begin to realize the bullshit that the mind can think up!
Anatomy and brain physiology are vital study in the healing sciences. Yet in religion one is told the healing contained within their holy book is "truth" but it turns out to be slight of hand and one leaves believing the lady was sawn in half yet is miraculously restored to wholeness by the power of God. Then they are taught what morality is. Bait and switch.

RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 08:16 pm
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 08:32 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

reasoning logic wrote:

reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
One prayer to Jesus and brain tumors simply dissolve! Why are there even christian mercy hospitals if faith of the bible is the only necessary cure?


How often do you think that it is that someone with a brain tumor prays to God and then goes to an atheist to have the tumor removed?
I think that it is more often than when someone goes to a theist to have it removed!


Did I make this post clear Rex? if not I will try to expand on it!

From what I understand from my studies of neuroscience is that all the neuroscientist that I have studied have been atheist, I do realize that there could be some that are theist but I would think that when someone understands how our brains work they begin to realize the bullshit that the mind can think up!
Anatomy and brain physiology are vital study in the healing sciences. Yet in religion one is told the healing contained within their holy book is "truth" but it turns out to be slight of hand and one leaves believing the lady was sawn in half yet is miraculously restored to wholeness by the power of God. Then they are taught what morality is. Bait and switch.



Sorry I misinterpreted your post RL.

Lately even the fruit flies in my kitchen can't stand me. Smile
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 08:58 pm
@RexRed,
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WHO apologized to me for the viscous tag drugfuckedidiot tag left on my thread?
It wasnt me but on behalf of the wider community, sorry!

I am moved by your plight but I still think the only option is to accept legal status that does not have the title married but is in all legal intents and purposes marriage.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 09:02 pm
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
I think that it is more often than when someone goes to a theist to have it removed!
I think you are confusing fundamentalist religion with people who believe in God . There are many religious scientists and professionals .
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 09:04 pm
@RexRed,
Quote:
Lately even the fruit flies in my kitchen can't stand me.
Oh, a rich boy hey ! We are so poor even the flies avoid our kitchen as the scraps are not big enough and there is a very real danger of being eaten alive .
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2011 06:13 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Rex was your dad good to you as a child and then things changed when he found out that you were gay or was he always bad toward you?
As with scientific studies most gay males are the y0ungest of siblings. I was the last male born to my parents but young is not really the word. My dad did not age as I was the lucky male in my family to inherit this trait. He was 59 when I was born and my mother being twenty years younger than him was 39. He was 80 by the time I was 20. Yet he lived at home during most of my life and was kind of on the strict old fashioned side. He smiled a lot and was a good provider for our large family.

He was a Shriner and did not really like organized religion (other than Lutheran) as a rule but he tolerated it. When he found out I was openly gay he did not say a word about it. I respected him and was proud of him but my mother seemed to be there a bit more for me. He was a cantankerous old sea captain on supertankers most of his life and ran the family like a ship. He was not always home to raise my other brothers and sisters much as he was six months on and six months off the ships. When I was born was about the time he retired and came to live at home permanently.

He did not work at all while I was growing up so he made me work hard building stone walls and working in the large family garden. I had to mow lawns on the estate where the lawn would take me three days to mow every two weeks. He had a lobster boat and three houses on the estate that we cared for, repainted and kept tidy.

I probably am much more like my father than any of my siblings. I had a good childhood at home but school turned out to be problematic for me.

I did have some great teachers but the other kids relentlessly picked on me. I always thought they were just jealous of me. I developed a gay lisp as a youngster and lost it by about 5th grade. My mother sent me to Ssssspeech Classssss... Perhaps this is why I am a vocalist by profession or perhaps I developed the lisp to let people know of my own sexual preference. Once I got to an old enough age to feel secure I dropped the lisp. Most gays think I am straight when they meet me.

I remember being gay as early as three years old. I remember many things from that age and roughly there abouts. I was as certain of my preference then as I am today. My mother had to pry me off my cute male Norwegian cousins lap... I knew even that young that my family did not really approve. Yet my gayness really I think was never a surprise to them. I was born gay so i never really came out officially to them. It remains an unspoken topic really to them just another fact of my life.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2011 08:03 pm
@RexRed,
Good to hear that you had a somewhat normal life. I lived a much poorer life with different problems than what you had.

My father has a psychological problem he does not seem to feel empathy or sympathy for other people, he has been in and out of prison all of his life.

My father has spent more of his life behind bars than he has been a free man. It was hard for me to forgive my dad when he was never in my life but as I got older I realized that something was not right in his brain.

All of his brothers and sister are fine and graduated from college and he was raised the same as they were.

My mother raised us 4 kids by herself and did the best she could which was pretty good for a single parent without help from others.
RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2011 08:21 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Good to hear that you had a somewhat normal life. I lived a much poorer life with different problems than what you had.

My father has a psychological problem he does not seem to feel empathy or sympathy for other people, he has been in and out of prison all of his life.

My father has spent more of his life behind bars than he has been a free man. It was hard for me to forgive my dad when he was never in my life but as I got older I realized that something was not right in his brain.

All of his brothers and sister are fine and graduated from college and he was raised the same as they were.

My mother raised us 4 kids by herself and did the best she could which was pretty good for a single parent without help from others.
I thought my family was possibly dysfunctional till I got out into the real world and realized I was raised in a rather normal environment with very loving, intellectually progressive and kind parents. Perhaps even an ivory palace or a garden of great beauty and grandeur.

My mother was never required to work a job, my father preferred she raise the family instead so she stayed home other then she volunteered for nearly every social event she could. Ladies aid, 4H, the extension, school functions, she was a volunteer ambulance attendant, highly active in the church, and was a worthy matron in the eastern star. As she got older she was no longer capable of adorning us with the life she had always visualized.

She was the type of woman I could talk to about anything. In an age with her kids turning into hippies she preferred being in the know rather than in the dark. She never had a vice (other than reading romance novels) towards the end of her life she became a sage and a woman of great character and wisdom. She is perhaps the only person I know who went to the grave without a single regret.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 09:02 pm
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 12:43 am
@RexRed,
I agree with Aristotle... homosexuality should be banned but such a ban is unworkable . Mind you in his day there were huge problems with the social acceptance of homosexuality especially child sexual abuse .
RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 06:41 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

I agree with Aristotle... homosexuality should be banned but such a ban is unworkable . Mind you in his day there were huge problems with the social acceptance of homosexuality especially child sexual abuse .


Why do you always mention homosexuality in association with deviant sexual behaviors? What, heterosexuals don't abuse children? Heterosexuals were not abusing children in Aristotle's day or was it just more accepted that old men marry young "maidens"?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 06:59 pm
@RexRed,
The young man does have a way with logic doesn't he!
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 10:36 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

Ionus wrote:

I agree with Aristotle... homosexuality should be banned but such a ban is unworkable . Mind you in his day there were huge problems with the social acceptance of homosexuality especially child sexual abuse .


Why do you always mention homosexuality in association with deviant sexual behaviors? What, heterosexuals don't abuse children? Heterosexuals were not abusing children in Aristotle's day or was it just more accepted that old men marry young "maidens"?


...and saying that homosexuality was not accepted in Aristotle's day is like saying that lesbianism was not accepted on the isle of Lesbos.
Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2011 12:43 am
@RexRed,
Lets take a group of people who are, for all intents and purposes, bisexual . Because of the availablilty of homosexual sex, they gravitate towards that by default not preference . Their true preference is to have sex with anything that moves .

Given a lot of sexual dysfunction occurs during the growing years and during experimentation, there is a larger number of those who call themselves homosexual who are "interested" in children . In the post-hippy era, political correctness demands such things are not talked about . Therefore we have the unsustainable position where homosexuals and heterosexuals molest children equally . This simply isnt true . The sexually damaged molest children and they are to be found in far greater numbers amongst those who call themselves homosexuals .

True homosexuals, ie those that are born that way, have a very low incidence of child sexual molestation .

One of Aristotles contemporaries wrote that nothing sends him "all a shiver" more then the sight of their little limbs . I have conversed with female homosexuals who say things like "but wouldnt you just love to kiss that sweet little face" . As many have experimented with sex, been molested, started sex as children with the same sex due to play preferences and a thousand and one reasons for having sex when they too were children, these tend to be the hump anything crowd and are looking for children to have the same experiences as them .

The number one cause of heterosexual men abusing children is prison . The number one cause of heterosexual women abusing children is yet to be determined because more often than not they are gentle and get away with it . Most men who are gentle also get away with sexually molesting children .

I want you to honestly say you have never met a homosexual man who you thought was an actual or potential child molester . Or the number you have met that you suspected or knew .
 

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