California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

I suppose Spendi, if a bisexual male was marrying a transgendered female they would ask the groom, "Do you take this woman to be your wife?" She certainly would not be married as a male if she lived as a female...

It is not words alone that define marriage but love and equality are fulfilled also... Matrimonial love chosen between two consenting adults is equal...

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There are stronger things than civil rights. Economic survival for example.

The former is a matter of opinion and relative. That latter is not.

The education system is geared to the perpetuation of inequality on behalf of the chattering classes which even measures IQ their own way and hands out the plums accordingly.

Racism will only be gone when we are all a light shade of brown. And something will replace it when it is gone. Being indignant at structure and hierarchy is like being indignant at the Pacific Ocean.

Transient and ephemeral concepts. Catholic vows are fixed with no ambiguities for lawyers to exploit.

One might take the former casually. Not so the latter. A Catholic marriage is a serious business. Anything else is a jape and, in the last analysis, misogynistic.

Jane Austen used the word "fix" to denote the capture of a man in marriage by a woman. There's nothing fixed in the vows you have offered.

The list you provided of the states sanctioning same sex "marriage" is not a matter for congratulation. It is a matter of shame.

It shows that you elect counter-jumpers, in preference to statesmen, and who bow the knee because somebody shouts "homophobe" and has the depraved city mentalities on his side with all their city based media as a lever.

Why is it we must do this in order to see new page in this thread. Are the hamsters ashamed?

Aye, political correctness the impudent foppery of today's politics.

Jean Giraudoux in Lying Woman.

The force of that entropy, which Rex has not considered and which is only being kept at bay by the distraction of this campaign, is what the Church sought to address with its marriage rules.

A point the author didn't consider, and Huxley did, is that the rejection of the immobility, stasis, causes the next one to be rejected in a shorter time until we reach the point of the one **** spayed bride chosen for the night from a catalogue. Officially deemed marriage until cancelled the next morning by a functionary on the six to two shift with bits of dried marmalade on his tie.

Bring it on eh lads? Sounds pretty good to me. I don't think the serious homosexuals would consider the same partner two nights running. It might suggest they are settling down otherwise.

I know many couples that made up their own vows so claiming that their is only one set of vows is BS. But than you are the best at disseminating BS.

There is only one set of vows that mean anything. All the stuff haven't a vow between them. Otherwise why have them?

Vows are not subject to adjustment. Only failure.

Sheesh!! Now a word like "vow" is slipping into the melting pot to be cast anew to mean anything anybody wants it to mean.

No different the meaning of many words such as "gay."

Read the book, The Meaning of Everything, by Simon Winchester. You'll learn something about the English language.

Their are any number of vows which mean different things to different people. Dident you try to claim there is only one marrage vow.

So if I am not on Ignore what about the question you were asked about the country of your origins.

I know all about changes in language. But there are hierarchies of words. Some are more important than others.

What do you think "sweetheart" means? The idea that a bloke is a sweetheart is so utterly ridiculous that I'm amazed at myself for writing about it.

The essential feature of marriage is the vow. In this matter the vow means nothing.

Another essential feature is that one of the parties is a sweetheart and a chap can't do it. The Church has always cast a benevolent eye upon lesbians so long as it didn't last or get too popular.

Where's the honeymoon with no honey?

Was there no Romantic period in Japanese culture?

He seems to claim that if it is not catholicism it is not valid.

Yes I did. There is only one.

Tell us what it is.

spendi, You keep asking this same question over and over and over, and I have to keep repeating over and over and over - that I "peek" into your post once-in-awhile to pick on your ignorance. It's fun!

You,

Your memory is as bad as your comprehension and use of English.