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California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 05:36 pm
@Shadow X,
Quote:
The psychologists are doing their best to change pedophilia to an acceptable behavior.


Would you care to share this info?

One of the problems I see with pedophilia is that the youth does not have a chance to decide for him or herself who they may want to engage in sex with. What I am saying is I think that a person should reach an age of 18 and by then they should know what they want. They should not have the influence of adults that are able to tempt them in many ways.
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 05:37 pm
@RexRed,
I have an opinion from a mental health point of view that the homosexual lifestyle is unhealthy. This is the reason for my discomfort with 'normalizing' the gay lifestyle. It's an unhealthy message to send to teens struggling with identity issues. I also believe most programs designed to convert from gay to straight are likely to fail.

I don't counsel professionally. My private counsel reflects the Bible's view that homosexual behavior is wrong. (No more sinful, BTW, than smoking) . My short answer? Celibacy. Harsh? You may think so; but many Christians lead productive lives as single persons. Not all, perhaps not even a large minority, have unresolved homosexual leanings.
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 05:40 pm
@Shadow X,
Shall I get you a list of only LGBT children bullied?
And here is the huge list of Heterosexual children bullied to death by LGBT individuals...

Straight Kids Bullied to Death By Gays
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/09/14/straight-kids-bullied-to-death-by-gays&view=comments

I bet you actually clicked on the link... The list is one big fat ZERO!

Teen Bullied for Being Gay: What Would You Do?
http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/bullied-gay/story?id=11972961#.UaaP2EA4t8E

The question is, why should you care? Why don't you care? Some care and some have their Bibles...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 06:27 pm
@neologist,
If you are not celibate yourself then you shouldn't go prescribing and dictating such a life for others.

As for homosexuality being unhealthy.. no more unhealthy than heterosexual sex.
And promiscuous heterosexual sex is unhealthy too and marriage is there to help draw couples into a monogamous lifestyle. So marriage is more healthy for gays than promiscuity but you are against gay marriage so that just tells me you really don't give a hoot about health for gays...

Gay marriage is not only about sex but mostly about love and love is so unhealthy for people. (cynical)
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 06:31 pm
On my FB feed today...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1059_379982975441155_1002768618_n.jpg
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 06:33 pm
Father Puts 6-Week-Old Daughter In Freezer; Meanwhile, Catholics Say Gays Can’t Parent (VIDEO)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/29/father-puts-6-week-old-daughter-in-freezer-meanwhile-catholics-say-gays-cant-parent-video/
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 07:10 pm
@RexRed,
Jonathan risked his life for David because he knew David was the rightful king, not his father Saul. Read what you want into it.
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 07:19 pm
@RexRed,
All promiscuity is condemned in the Bible, as are the sexual acts normally performed by homosexuals, such as oral and anal sex. How many preachers will tell you that?

As I said, it is the homosexual activity that is sinful, not the inclination.

And love? Which of the four Greek words for love is the most important? And which of the four words is not mentioned in the bible? Could it be the least important?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 12:48 am
@neologist,
Quote:
Jonathan risked his life for David because he knew David was the rightful king, not his father Saul. Read what you want into it.


That is what I find most Christians doing Reading what they want into it.

You do not like to read homosexual love stories in the bible do you?
Shadow X
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 05:56 am
@RexRed,
lol And what part of that says they were having sex with each other Rex?

There are examples of kings and rulers and everyday people throughout history who would kiss one another and it had nothing to do with gay sex lol The jewish culture for thousands of years used that as a way of greeting and saying goodby. People still do it today in a lot of countries. They kiss one another as greetings and farewells. Not surprisingly, we see this same behavior described in a farewell scene in regards to David and Johnathon.

Only a homosexual would think that's gay sex lol
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Shadow X
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:00 am
@reasoning logic,
Several well-known researchers recently made unexpected arguments on pedophilia at an academic conference in Baltimore.

Liberty Counsel Action's Matt Barber attended the conference and says he felt he was on a different planet, as the presenting professionals aimed to remove pedophilia from the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). That would mean that pedophilia would no longer be considered a mental disorder.

"The entire focus of the event was on the victimhood of the pedophile," Barber accounts. There was "very little concern for the children who are the victims of these individuals when they are raped, who these individuals lust after," he adds.

And he says the experts' discussions were focused on "destigmatizing pedophilia ... removing the stigma, and [getting] the public to stop demonizing pedophiles."

But the attorney reports that the APA is already moving toward declassifying pedophilia as a mental disorder "by saying that a pedophile is only a pedophile in their latest DSM ... if they are distressed by their attractions or behaviors."

So Barber decides that would bring the APA one step closer to de-classifying pedophilia as a mental disorder, as they did homosexuality in the 1970s.
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Shadow X
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:04 am
@RexRed,
As far as homosexuality is concerned... he is celibate... or at least I would expect he would be. The same thing is true for pedophilia. He is celibate in regards to that as well. As should you be. All people who may be attracted to children are expected to be celibate in that regard.

Why you think homosexuality should be any different is beyond me.

To claim homosexuality is not unhealthy is patently absurd. There have been multiple studies performed where two twins who grew up in a healthy home and by all accounts BOTH had a happy and healthy life growing up, the homosexual twin turns out to be mentally unstable and becomes a danger to himself and society. Whereas the heterosexual twin comes out perfectly healthy.

I'm sorry but your lifestyle is detrimental... whether you want to admit that or not is really quite irrelevant. Just like whether or not NAMBLA wants to admit their lifestyle is derelict and detrimental is irrelevant as well.
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neologist
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:05 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
. . . You do not like to read homosexual love stories in the bible do you?
Apparently you will look for homosexual love stories wherever it suits you. Erotic love is never mentioned in the bible. Principled love is mentioned may times.

Or, perhaps you snicker when some believer says "God is love".
Shadow X
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:05 am
@neologist,
That is correct neologist. Nobody said you can't have the homosexual feelings. But you are expected to not act upon those feelings. Just like the person who has urges towards violence, stealing, beastiality and pedophilia. They can have those urges... but they are expected to not act upon them.
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Shadow X
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:15 am
@RexRed,
"And promiscuous heterosexual sex is unhealthy too and marriage is there to help draw couples into a monogamous lifestyle. So marriage is more healthy for gays than promiscuity but you are against gay marriage so that just tells me you really don't give a hoot about health for gays"

Stop being so dishonest... Is that the ONLY way you can make your argument?

You can go to any city in any county in any state in this country and get married. You can have a wedding... give each other wedding rings, say vows and kiss in front of all your friends and family. You can play here comes the bride and go on a honeymoon and live with each other happily ever after if that's what you want. The ONLY thing that is being denied to the homosexual community are the BENEFITS that come from marriage.

So this idea that promiscuity is so heavy in the homosexual community because heterosexuals are denying you marriage is blatent lie. But like most homosexuals, you blame all your problems on straight people.
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:41 am
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/942214_530181710350846_1943097401_n.jpg
Shadow X
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:48 am
@RexRed,
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/575745_573484152696876_1814404544_n.jpg

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/22/anti-gay-bias-or-fair-punishment-new-details-emerge-about-high-school-students-lesbian-relationship-with-a-minor/

And shockingly the homosexual community has had an outcry that the 18 year old adult should be able to continue her sexual relationship with the 14 year old child. Again... the homosexual community advocating for and defending pedophilia.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/984078_572871356091489_2072802987_n.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/22/texas-school-punishes-boy-for-opposing-homosexuality/

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417948_572138896164735_370613387_n.jpg

http://www.thomasmore.org/press-releases/2011/12/student-sues-school-district-and-teacher-over-punishment-received-after-he-ex

But I guess it's okay when homosexuals do it huh Red?
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:50 am
@Shadow X,
Benefits = Equality

Families are families and adult monogamous marriages are marriages. I don't hear you screaming about benefits for corporations or that "married" gays with families have been paying for heterosexual benefits for many years... Benefits like visiting your spouse when sick in the hospital or picking up your spouses children at school. First you will want to deny benefits for LGBT people and their families then you will be screaming for legalized pedophilia, polygamy and bestiality.... (cynical) Slippery slope you know when you can justify anything by twisting words in a "holy" book.
Shadow X
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:53 am
@RexRed,
Corporations should not receive subsidies. Period.

Also, homosexuals SHOULD pay for marriage benefits for heterosexuals because heterosexuals actually provide a benefit to society in the form of procreation. Without the benefit of the heterosexual relationship, homosexuals would have died out long ago.

Homosexuals can visit their partner in a hospital. Thats a false argument. The ONLY time they're not allowed to visit is during off visiting hours. Which they can overcome by simply signing a power of attorney.

I'm not even sure I get your point abuot legalized pedophilia polygamy and beastiality... I think they should all be denied marriage benefits... just like homosexuals.

Also, I've asked you over and over again... if you believe in this "equality" ideal that you're claiming... then you MUST agree that incestuous couples should have that same equality right?

Hypocrite.
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 06:59 am
@Shadow X,
Name => Mark Foley
Political party => Republican
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Mark_Foley%2C_official_109th_Congress_photo.jpg

Foley resigned from Congress on September 29, 2006 acting on a request by the Republican Leadership after allegations surfaced that he had sent suggestive emails and sexually explicit instant messages[1] to underage males who had formerly served and were at that time serving as Congressional pages.

Good republican morals huh? There is no excuse for this...
 

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