California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

If the shoe fits, wear it i guess

I'm not sure what part of this you don't understand.

It does not matter if the child is half theirs. We are not paying them to raise the child. We are paying for the CREATION of the child. Something the homosexual cannot do without going outside of their gay relationship and partaking in the heterosexual relationship.

And I really think your disagreement with pedophilia actually indicates a deep seeded desire to have sex with little children. See how stupid that is? Of course the statistics would indicate that's much closer to truth than me being a closet homosexual.

You really are clueless!

From mail online.

Excellent! This is true for all children.

Thanks for making my point. Those two lesbians had to partake in the heterosexual relationship (ie they needed a man) To produce a child which they were in capable of doing in and of themselves.

Red you finally said something (or posted something) that makes even a slight bit of sense.

I agree, you do build children up. You do not tear them down or speak ill towards them. However, you do not do this by being accepting of behaviors and activities that are detrimental. You do not teach them that stealing is an acceptable behavior even if they were born with a genetic predisposition to steal. You do not teach them that homosexuality is an acceptable behavior. You do not teach them that having sex with their family members is an acceptable behavior... even if they think their sister is hot. You do not teach them that being violent is acceptable behavior even if they have a genetic predisposition to be more violent than others. You do not teach them that marrying 15 women is an acceptable lifestyle even if they think they want to marry their 5 girlfriends.

You do not build a child up by allowing him to partake in immoral, detrimental activities. Quite the opposite. You teach them that those behaviors are wrong and not to be engaged in so that they can grow up to be respectful, moral, upstanding, productive members of society.

Actually babies have been made without a male being involved. But being a religious person you wouldnt know about that science stuff. Nor are you for kids educating themselves.

I'll ask you again. Do you think incestuous couples should be allowed to marry and teach your children in school that its an acceptable behavior to engage in?

Or are you only spouting this civil right BS when it's convenient for your argument?

For the record, marriage is a civil right.. which is why you can go anywhere anytime and get married in any city, in any county in any state in this country. Receiving the benefits that are derived from that marriage are not... which is why only heterosexuals receive them because they are the only ones who qualify for those benefits.

BTW if you have an example of marriage before the bible... by all means, please produce it.

Really? Why don't you provide me a source for human babies being produced without an egg and a sperm. I'd LOVE to see that.

An infertile heterosexual man needs a man to make babies too. Should they be denied the right to marry?

Approximately 15 percent of couples are infertile

That's many millions of people who under your crazy definition of marriage should not get a tax benefit, but they do. That is millions of people who might as well be in a same sex relationship because they will not produce progeny.

I don't hear you screaming about them...

First of all you seem sure that homosexuality is taught, it is not. Is heterosexuality taught? Who taught you to like women?

I already explained that to you. We provide the benefit to the ENTIRE group (heterosexuals) because of the POTENTIAL to provide the benefit of child creation. It is too costly, inefficient and ultimately ineffective to test every single couple to determine if they've become sterile this year or next year or the year after. That process is simply not feasible. So we provide the benefit for the entire group that holds the potential for child creation.

Unfortunately for homosexuals, they do not hold the potential for child creation without taking part in the heterosexual relationship.

As I stated before... you might have an argument why infertile couples should not be able to receive benefits (and i personally would agree, as I don't believe we should give marriage benefits to anyone). But you have no argument whatsoever as to why homosexuals SHOULD receive those benefits.

I didn't say homosexuality is taught... It doesn't matter if it's taught or they're "born that way".

Some people are born with a genetic predisposition to steal or a genetic predisposition to be violent. Some people are born with a genetic predisposition to be homosexual. Som eare born with a genetic predisposition to be attracted to little children. Some are born with a genetic predisposition to be attracted to their family members. Som are born with a genetic predisposition to be attracted to animals.

Just because you are born that way does not give you the right to engage in those behaviors.

If they're "born that way," what do you expect them to do? If you're born a boy, what choice did you have?

Even then, some boys feel uncomfortable as boys, and change their sex - and visa versa.

They want to be who they believe they are! Why are you so critical of people who didn't have a choice?

The same exact thing I expect a pedophile who is born attracted to 4 year old little girls to do. NOT engage in that behavior.

We expect people ALL the time who are "born that way" with all kinds of stuff to simply not engage in that behavior.

Where did you get the idea they were born that way? Do you have a doctorate in psychology/psychiatry?

What makes you think murderers were born that way? There are laws against murder, pedophelia, and whatever else you think were inherited.

Some states now allow homosexual marriage. It's not for YOU to decide what the laws are.

You're just plain stupid!

It's a well known fact that some people are born with more of a genetic predisposition to be violent than others. Sociopaths (as reasoning logic points out) are born that way.

It's a well known fact some people are born with a genetic predisposition to steal (kleptomaniacs). But they're still expected not to act upon those behaviors... and if they do, they're punished for it.

I'm not advocating to punish homosexuals... but you certainly don't reward their behavior by PAYING them for it lol