"I don't trust him," is something people say to hide their racism.

@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Really? I mean, you read about communist systems killing something like a hundred million people over the last century and there's something fundamentally wrong with hating communism???

why don't you ask bushy about that, gunga? he's the one that's been selling the united states to the communist chinese on the installment plan.

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@Jenifer Johnson,

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Debra Law : I agree. Hate and discrimination are still very much alive in this country

Hate is an emotion that can only be felt by the person that is actually hating, then projecting their own hatred by claiming that others hate.

No one can think or feel for someone else

Nor can love/hate be altered by law, law is of the rational mind, love/hate is of the heart. That Americans think that there is any good to come of laws against hate show just how far removed from good sense America has become.

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Everyone is free to openly speak his mind about anything, political correctness be damned.
No one owes any duty to try to bring his views
into conformity with the fashion of the day, nor to please others.

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@hawkeye10,

I would agree with what you have said, but would change law with truth, because only legitimate law can found in truth.

"Color of law" is illegitimate.

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@DontTreadOnMe,

DTOM

Joe the Plumber and Palin - incurious, uneducated, yet full of certainties and confidence in their ideas anyway, and they are put forward as role models and authorities. But that is also precisely the mode of conservative talk radio. Okie the Citizen too could be trotted out in the election as a representative of the best America produces.

On the other hand, a constitutional lawyer out of Harvard, particularly if the first black editor of the HLR, represents the failure of American educational and intellectual aspirations.

It becomes an interesting question to ask...who profits from this attempt to make americans uneducated, unthoughtful and consequently, this stupid?

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@blatham,

You have resolved that Joe the Plumber is uneducated as is Gov. Palin?

You know you are wrong in saying that and the facts, that you seem to ignore, support the fact you are wrong.

Obama did get to Harvard not on merit, but as a result of AA. He did well. All that means is he passed the "tests".

IN MY PREVIOUS PROFESSIONAL life, I had reason to be in contact with dozens of Barack Obama's classmates at Harvard Law School. When he entered the presidential race, I dusted off my Rolodex and began making some calls to get the off-the-record skinny on the Democrats' potential savior.

The results surprised me. Regardless of his classmates' politics, they all said pretty much the same thing. They adored him. The only thing that varied was the intensity with which they adored him. Some spoke like they were eager to bear his children. And those were the guys. Others merely professed a profound fondness and respect for their former classmate.

Even more interesting was what wasn't said. In dozens of conversations, not a single person said anything negative about him, and some were hardly the senator's political fellow travelers. Also noteworthy is that virtually everyone seemed to know Obama. Usually people who have such a high profile on law school campuses have their detractors. Obama apparently didn't.

This general attitude regarding Obama is even more remarkable given how well he performed at Harvard Law School. Obama graduated there in 1991. As many people know, he was president of the Harvard Law Review. This accomplishment, for those who know how such things work, was easy to minimize. Generally, you earned admission to the Law Review because of a distinguished academic performance in your first year. But there were some members who got on the Law Review because they wrote good essays as part of their application
process and in spite of mediocre grades. A notable subset of this latter category was minority students; a politically correct institution, the Law Review cared about diversity in its ranks.

This was an unacknowledged form of affirmative action, but just because the Law Review didn't acknowledge it didn't mean law firms would follow suit. Membership on the Law Review basically meant that you were one of Harvard's smartest students. Unless you got there for some reason other than your grades. In those cases, hiring authorities would usually dismiss your Law Review membership, although they would never admit to doing so.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/316vvyov.asp?pg=1

Your problem is you feel it is necessary to lie about Palin which I find disgraceful, but typical.

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@Woiyo9,

Woiyo...you are such a jerk.

Let's include some bits of that piece you omitted...

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The only reason I bring this barely relevant history up is to show what a stud of a law student Barack Obama was. He graduated Harvard magna cum laude. This was one honor you unquestionably had to earn. It's a very impressive feat. Back in Obama's days at Harvard, more than 50 percent of the class graduated cum laude, a fact that made graduating "with honors" a meaningless accomplishment. But graduating magna was a different kettle of fish. Barack Obama graduated right near the top of his law school class.

That fact, along with his presidency of the Law Review, makes his uniform popularity all the more impressive. Law schools are intensely competitive places. People who thrive to an unseemly extent, as Obama did, are usually subject to an array of resentments. After all, the lawyers of tomorrow populate law schools; pettiness and insecurity reign supreme.

The people that Obama so thoroughly charmed generally weren't the charm-prone types. I say the following as a well known Republican partisan--the fact that his classmates so universally held him in the highest regard suggests that Barack Obama may truly be a special person.

ALL OF WHICH MAKES his campaign's ineptness more mysterious.

In retrospect, do you think that sentence in blue might be reformulated by the writer?

You said I lied about Palin and Joe as regards their education. They are both transparently incurious, badly uneducated because of that, and pretty stupid as the final consequence. But they are probably far better off than you.

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@Woiyo9,

Woiyo9 wrote:

Obama did get to Harvard not on merit, but as a result of AA. He did well. All that means is he passed the "tests".

While not defending comments against Palin, how can you say Obama did not get to Harvard on merit? He graduated Magna Cum Laude and has a history of outstanding acedemic accomplishment. Why would you assume he didn't earn his position?

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@engineer,

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Why would you assume he didn't earn his position?

Let me suggest:
1) because Obama is african american
2) because woiyo clearly can't read or comprehend something longer than two sentences
3) because woiyo is a complete jerk

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

DTOM

Joe the Plumber and Palin - incurious, uneducated, yet full of certainties and confidence in their ideas anyway, and they are put forward as role models and authorities. ..

lack of inquiring mind is something that always puzzles me. having it does not automatically make you a genius, but not having it seems to indicate a lack independent thinking. that is, how the hell is a person supposed to be perceptive about the world around them if they have no idea that anything could possibly be other than what they've been told. and if a person is planning to work on the world stage of politics; a level where the failure to deal skillfully with an adversarial leader could result in something far worse than simply not getting a discount on new snow shoes, i am highly uncomfortable having an intellectually lazy person in the driver's seat. again...

and john mccain's age, coupled with poor health, make it highly likely that palin would become president in the next four years should their ticket win.

it's my humble opinion that palin's lack of inquiring mind as i've described it above, is why she feels that nobody ever notices the crap she pulls because they are so taken with her coquettish facade.

if ya can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit, as the saying goes. hmmm, maybe in her case it should be moose ****?

blatham wrote:

It becomes an interesting question to ask...who profits from this attempt to make americans uneducated, unthoughtful and consequently, this stupid?

apparently that would be international corporations, politicians, churches and unlicensed plumbers.

at first, i was really perplexed by all of this adulation over ol' joe the plumber. but it dawned on me, that the guy is a total hero of the anti-tax crowd. look at the guy. he just decided to not pay his taxes.

he's going to be awarded the Order of Norquist medal for heroics in the great patriotic war to enjoy all that america has to offer while letting someone else pay for it, i betcha. Very Happy

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@DontTreadOnMe,

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i was really perplexed by all of this adulation over ol' joe the plumber...he's going to be awarded the Order of Norquist medal

It will be very illuminating to watch what Norquist does after Tuesday (what of if we can see, of course).

That adulation looks identical to the adulation for Palin..."she's just like us." And that has some real truth to it...incurious, uneducated and consequently stupid tends to be the descriptors of the folks who like her and him. The only notable exception to this involves the folks who are pushing them forward...not incurious, not uneducated and not stupid.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

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i was really perplexed by all of this adulation over ol' joe the plumber...he's going to be awarded the Order of Norquist medal

It will be very illuminating to watch what Norquist does after Tuesday (what of if we can see, of course).

That adulation looks identical to the adulation for Palin..."she's just like us." And that has some real truth to it...incurious, uneducated and consequently stupid tends to be the descriptors of the folks who like her and him. The only notable exception to this involves the folks who are pushing them forward...not incurious, not uneducated and not stupid.

just devious and manipulative?

wow! i've got it!!! joe the plumber is "chance the gardner"

http://www.geocities.com/~cheshyre/buds.jpg

holy crap!

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@DontTreadOnMe,

excellent.

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@DontTreadOnMe,

That's very funny, DTOM

But the difference here is that the folks pushing Palin/Joe forward are, I think, very well aware that these two are not filled with quiet wisdom. These two are quite unlike the way they think of themselves.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

That's very funny, DTOM

But the difference here is that the folks pushing Palin/Joe forward are, I think, very well aware that these two are not filled with quiet wisdom. These two are quite unlike the way they think of themselves.

yeah. so was milli vanilli.

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Two sets of interviews. The first of Obama supporters at a rally and the second of McCain supporters at a rally. The question to both is 'what will happen/what do you expect, given a win by the opponent?"
http://newsproject.org/

Notice the prevalence of the "he's scary/I don't trust him" in the second.

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@dyslexia,

It's the same problem with money. It says "In God We Trust", but too many people simply don't buy that. So for those of you that don't like that saying, please send me all your money.

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I don't trust him.

Or McCain.

Or any politican for that matter.

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@blatham,

the 2 people that seemed the most upset about obama redistributing the wealth, and taking from the rich and giving to the poor definately looked like they make 250K plus a year. Rolling Eyes

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@Bella Dea,

AMEN!!!!!!!

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