ATTENTION Liberals....., Serious question here...........

@Jeremiah,

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You are all Obama supporters.

Sez who?

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@Jeremiah,

Given the last 8 years, I'm an ABM/ABaR person.

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Painting with a wide brush today, are we?

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@Jeremiah,

how sincere a question can this be? Methinks you'tre trolling. How the hell can we know what the future will bring? Any time you vote for a candidate you take your chances.

Look what a mess those that voted for Dubyah got the country involved in! Sure has to be a lot better situation than that fiasco. I'll take my chances with Obama. It sure must make conservative Repugs pretty antsy....losing the White House as well as Congress in one fell swoop! Nice job...especially with Palin as a choice for VP.

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@Jeremiah,

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Just how will BO as president change your PERSONAL life for the better.

I will never hear the sentence: President Palin is about to address the nation...

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@Jeremiah,

Jeremiah, A good question, but to be realistic, it's only because of what Obama stands for and his character more than anything he promised during his campaigning. The facts are that no president will be able to do much with the current financial crisis and the two active wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

McCain represents the old guard Bush ideas based on how McCain voted 4 out of 5 times with Bush. His rhetoric belies his actions; he voted 95% with Bush during the last congress. It doesn't matter how much McCain wants to separate himself from Bush, but only conservatives can't see the contradiction of his message against his past actions.

McCain's choice of Plain is very, very, poor judgment; especially since there are better conservative candidates for veep. Palin is all hat and no cattle. She even thinks the vice president has power over the Senate; which shows she has no knowledge of our form of government.

McCain has flip-flopped so often, I haven't heard any conservative outline for us what his position is on the major issues of our day. McCain talks about Obama as being a "socialist," but McCain also voted for the bailout/rescue plan that socializes our banks and finance companies. McCain goes further and says he will help people having problems with their mortgage buy it, and resell it to the buyer. Guess who buys their mortgage: the government. If that isn't socialism, I don't know the meaning of that word.

Also remember what McCain did when he said he was going to "stop his campaign" to go to Washington DC to help pass the bailout legislation. Even the republicans didn't follow his lead. That's leadership? He also lied, because he did not stop his campaign.

Palin is a rabble rouser that incites bigotry, hate, and violence. You want her as our leader?

Palin's foreign experience is, as she explained, that Russia and Canada are connected to "her" state of Alaska, and she can see them - and added to all that, her husband is a member to push for secession. Do you know how to spell "AMERICA FIRST?"

You do get the idea, don't you?

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@cicerone imposter,

Well stated, CI. I do dispute that the vice president has no power over the senate. He, or who knows, she, becomes the president of the senate and has a vote in case of a tie. Not a killer issue, but it's there.

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@Jeremiah,

He's going to cover me, personally, with magical Unicorn kisses after inviting me to the White House to play Bocce ball next fall. Then, he's going to take your hard-earned money - and I do mean yours, Jerimiah, we'll figure out a way to tag every non-liberal's money so there's no confusion - and through the magic of Socialism Power, buy me a solar-powered flying car, which I will use to gather with my other Liberal friends and create a permanent shade patch over your house, swapping in and out with each other as necessary, so that even the very sun itself shall be denied you.

This I prophecy,
Cycloptichorn

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@roger,

roger, I didn't explain it very well; what Palin said was that she can work with congress, both republicans and democrats, to push for legislation that helps the American people. That's not what the Constitition says; she's the president of the Senate, but can only act when there is a tie to cast her one vote.

She is not a member of the Senate who can present legislation.

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@Cycloptichorn,

I wish when I vote this time I could feel as most of you seem too that he and the congress will make real changes in washington for the good of the country but what I have seen so far from the democratic congress is is the same thing the republicans did for the last eight years which is give in to the rich and powerful business interests. 70 billion in business bouneses for the biggest screw up in the last 72 years. Lots of luck for the next four years. When I vote I will be holding my nose.

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@rabel22,

I won't have to hold my nose, because most of the stink comes from the McCain/Palin team. Their smell is over-whelming in so many ways...

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@Jeremiah,

Universal healthcare. It would be a big relief to know that I can quit my job, lose my job, or go freelance without any consequences to my health insurance premium or coverage. To me as a diabetic, this whole dance about coverage, pre-existing conditions and the like is a big deal.

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@Thomas,

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Universal healthcare. It would be a big relief to know that I can quit my job, lose my job, or go freelance without any consequences to my health insurance premium or coverage. To me as a diabetic, this whole dance about coverage, pre-existing conditions and the like is a big deal.

thomas is a closet communist.

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@cicerone imposter,

And just today she said that she would influence policy in the Senate, too. I'm afraid to think of how she might try to do that. <sigh>

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@Always Eleven to him,

See for yourself. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Why do conservatives strive to elect mediocrity or worse. McCain/Palin/Bush/Bush/Reagan/the doofus vp from the mid-west/ ... .

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Palin Claims The Vice President Is ‘In Charge Of The U.S. Senate’»

Yesterday, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) sat for an interview with KUSA, an NBC affiliate in Colorado. In response to a question sent to the network by a third grader at a local elementary school about what the Vice President does, Palin erroneously argued that the Vice President is “in charge of the United States Senate“:

Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”

PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

WATCH IT:

Indeed, while Palin suggests that questions about what the Vice President does is something only her daughter Piper would ask, Palin herself asked this very question on national television in July. Apparently, she still hasn’t learned the correct answer.

Article I of the Constitution establishes an exceptionally limited role for the Vice President " giving the office holder a vote only when the Senate is “equally divided”:

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.

Moreover, the U.S. Senate website explains that the modern role of Vice Presidents has been to preside over the Senate “only on ceremonial occasions.” ThinkProgress contacted Senior Assistant Paliamentarian Peter Robinson, who also disputed Palin’s characterization of the Vice President’s role:

In modern practice the Vice President doesn’t really control the Senate. … If anyone has a responsibility to try to govern the Senate, it’s the responsibility of the two leaders.

UpdateWe have replaced the original video with a YouTube version.
UpdateThinkProgress obtained the following statement from Jim Manley, spokesman to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV):

This comment is all the more puzzling because this is at least the 2nd time she has said this. Gov Palin needs to re-read or perhaps read for the first time the Constitution.

While the Vice President presides over the Senate, he or she is not in charge of it. Article 1 says The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.

The Senate is part of a co-equal branch of the federal government.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/21/palin-vp-senate/

[emphasis is mine]

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Jeremiah, A good question, but to be realistic, it's only because of what Obama stands for and his character more than anything he promised during his campaigning. The facts are that no president will be able to do much with the current financial crisis and the two active wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I wish Obama would come out and tell us which of his campaign promises he won't be able to follow through on.....I mean if he decides that healthcare is too expensive in our current situation then I might as well have voted for McCain.....but I suppose that's exactly why he's not saying anything right? I sure hope he continues to make promises he doesn't plan on following through on.

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@maporsche,

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I mean if he decides that healthcare is too expensive in our current situation

The reason I think Obama will come through on his healthcare promise is because the economy depends on it. American companies can't compete in a world where they are the only ones stuck with big healthcare bills. GM, Ford, IBM etc are all suffocating from having to be America's healthcare providers. Big corporations like Walmart don't want the burden either. I think after the election they will all send their lobbyists to Washington where they will battle it out with the heathcare insurance lobbyists. Obama owes a lot less to the HC insurance industry than McCann. It's also why I preferred Obama to Hillary. In the last few years, Hillary sucked up a lot money from the HC industry and she owes them some favors.

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@Jeremiah,

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Just how will BO as president change your PERSONAL life for the better.

No one will be subjected to an endless litany of lies from Repubs.

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Limbaugh And Giuliani Indirectly Blame 9/11 On President Clinton

Discussing Sen. Joe Biden’s (D-DE) recent comments that the world will “test the mettle” of Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) with an international crisis if he is elected, right-wing talker Rush Limbaugh and former NYC mayor Rudy Giuliani indirectly blamed the terrorist attacks of 9/11 on former President Bill Clinton. “Every time Clinton was tested, he failed, and that’s why they tested Bush on 9/11,” said Limbaugh. Giuliani agreed:

RUSH: Mr. Giuliani, do you realize how many times Bill Clinton was tested by Al-Qaeda, starting in 1993 through Mogadishu to the USS Cole, and every time Clinton was tested, he failed, and that’s why they tested Bush on 9/11.

GIULIANI: Yeah.

The fact that Giuliani so easily agreed with Limbaugh is surprising, considering that in 2006 he said it was wrong to “cast blame on Clinton” for 9/11:

Giuliani: The idea of trying to cast blame on Clinton [for the 9/11 attacks] is just wrong for many, many reasons, not the least of which is I don’t think he deserves it.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/21/rudy-rush-clinton-911/

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@Jeremiah,

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Just how will BO as president change your PERSONAL life for the better.

No one will have to face the constant barrage of dishonest and incompetent hacks being appointed to political office.

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Yesterday, U.S. Special Counsel Scott Bloch announced his intention to resign when his term ends in January. Bloch, tasked with protecting federal whistle-blowers, is currently under investigation for retaliating against “employees who opposed his policies.” The FBI raided his home and office last year “amid allegations that he destroyed evidence and potentially lied to Congress.”

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