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ATTENTION Liberals....., Serious question here...........

 
 
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 24 Oct, 2008 12:59 pm
I will have an enormous feeling of pride in the citizens of my country that I haven't felt in a couple of decades.

I will have a great sense of accomplishment from achieving a goal after working very hard on it for nearly two years.

I will get to see an increasing level of renewed citizen interest and participation at all levels in the governing process of our country again.

For the first time in a very very long time, my first choice and the person I voted for will have won! I didn't have to plug my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils or vote against someone rather than for someone.

I'll have a government interested in improving our environment rather than profiting from the exploitation of it.

I'll have a government that recognizes and defends my right to privacy.
Primotivo
 
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Reply Fri 24 Oct, 2008 09:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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McCain represents the old guard Bush ideas based on how McCain voted 4 out of 5 times with Bush. His rhetoric belies his actions; he voted 95% with Bush during the last congress.

And, Obama voted present for the majority of the time, giving us no idea whatsoever what his stance is. Which I think is the plan.
At least with McCain you know what the guy believes in.

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McCain's choice of Plain is very, very, poor judgment; especially since there are better conservative candidates for veep. Palin is all hat and no cattle. She even thinks the vice president has power over the Senate; which shows she has no knowledge of our form of government.

Ummmm........Under the Constitution, the Vice President serves as President of the Senate. He may vote in the Senate in the case of a tie, but is not required to. The President Pro Tempore (and others designated by him) usually perform these duties during the Vice President's frequent absences from the Senate. The Vice President holds a tie breaking vote in the Senate and does not usually preside over the Senate. Usually.

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McCain has flip-flopped so often, I haven't heard any conservative outline for us what his position is on the major issues of our day.

Don't get me started on the flipflops of Obama.

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McCain talks about Obama as being a "socialist," but McCain also voted for the bailout/rescue plan that socializes our banks and finance companies.

As did Obama. McCain was being the statesman, instead of a politican which would have strengthened his case more. He pushed to get the Republicans to refuse the first go-around of Democratic authored bailout. Get the facts straght here.

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McCain goes further and says he will help people having problems with their mortgage buy it, and resell it to the buyer.

Correct. He's giving the $$ directly to the owners of the houses at a cheaper price ($300B) than the $750B bailout would eventually cost if given to the companies that created this mess, without running the $$ through the mortage-holding companies. Again, get your facts straight.

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Guess who buys their mortgage: the government. If that isn't socialism, I don't know the meaning of that word.

You are correct: You don't know the meaning of the word.

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Also remember what McCain did when he said he was going to "stop his campaign" to go to Washington DC to help pass the bailout legislation. Even the republicans didn't follow his lead.

Incorrect. See above. He lead the insurrection against the pork-laden bailout of the Democrats. Why do you think Pelosi and Barney Franks got so mad? Their little glass house had been shattered.

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He also lied, because he did not stop his campaign.

You've been reading too much MoveOn.Org. He did stop his campaign. As did Obama when they both went to Washington.

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Palin is a rabble rouser that incites bigotry, hate, and violence. You want her as our leader?

Hell, yes!!!! She's better than the namby-pamby Obama who needs a speechwriter to help him sound smart. Ummm......Errrrrrr........You know........Ummmm.....ERrrrrrr


roger
 
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Reply Fri 24 Oct, 2008 10:36 pm
@Jeremiah,
Repeating what George said, Sez who?
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 24 Oct, 2008 10:44 pm
@Primotivo,
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At least with McCain you know what the guy believes in.


At least until he opens his mouth again.

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The Vice President holds a tie breaking vote in the Senate and does not usually preside over the Senate. Usually.


Continue, Professor.

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Don't get me started on the flipflops of Obama.


Empty, idle threats.

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He pushed to get the Republicans to refuse the first go-around of Democratic authored bailout. Get the facts straght [SIC] here.


He sat there and didn't say anything because he was so far out of his league. Mr Economics might as well have gone on vacation for a week, which is what he wanted anyway, a respite from rigors of a campaign gone flat.

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You are correct: You don't know the meaning of the word.


There was a thread wherein Ossobuco asked for an explanation of the term. I missed your comments. Again, continue, Professor.

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Hell, yes!!!! She's better ...


This speaks volumes as to your intellect. The lady presents her ideas with speech patterns that resemble a Valley Girl, apologies to Valley Girls. How long has she been practicing in the wings now, eight weeks or so?

She is vacuous at best.
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 04:34 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

She is vacuous at best.


but very cagey. her assent seems to be;

1) get the attention of someone who can get her through the door.

2) charm someone who can get her a job.

3) stab that person in the back, and take their job.

4) look for next mark.

5) repeat #1 - #4 as needed until position of all powerful goddess of the universe is attained.

she appears to have done that to just about everyone who has helped her out.
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Jeremiah
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 10:09 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
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1, I'll get a tax cut (not that I need one).

You won't, mark my words, and if BO does follow through on this scam you will pay for it in other ways. The wealthy create jobs and prosperity for others, the more you take in taxes from them the less they have to grow the economy. Kennedy, Reagan and Bush proved this.
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2, Universal Health care would help my life considerably.

Uh Huh.... please give us one example of where the Feds have provided a better product or service than the private sector has.
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3, Competent appointees at NASA and the EPA and other agencies, instead of mouth-breathing Republican hacks.

Please provide the specific "hacks" you are referring to............
DrMom
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 10:10 pm
I am very ignorant when it comes to politics but knowing that the country I chose to live in is led by someone who is not an insult to commonsense, is a very good feeling for my personal life.
He appeals to me as a highly intelligent person.
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Jeremiah
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 10:13 pm
@Butrflynet,
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I will have an enormous feeling of pride in the citizens of my country that I haven't felt in a couple of decades.

I will have a great sense of accomplishment from achieving a goal after working very hard on it for nearly two years.

I will get to see an increasing level of renewed citizen interest and participation at all levels in the governing process of our country again.

For the first time in a very very long time, my first choice and the person I voted for will have won! I didn't have to plug my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils or vote against someone rather than for someone.

I'll have a government interested in improving our environment rather than profiting from the exploitation of it.

I'll have a government that recognizes and defends my right to privacy.


You are telling us that your personal gain from the election of BO as President will make you FEEL GOOD?
Tell us, how does feeling good put food on your table. How does feeling good put a roof over your head. How will feeling good prevent another 911....................
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2008 04:25 am
@Jeremiah,
Listen Jeremiah,

I have enough common sense to know that both Obama and McCain would be able to achieve about half (at max) of what they promise. The difference for me is Obama moves us in a new direction so just about all of McCain's promises in my opinion would be continuing us down the wrong path.

McCain's not a bad guy, he's just not offering me anything good.

As American's I wonder if we've lost our sense of patience sometimes. I like that Obama often speaks in terms of the long term. He sees a larger picture, and the world seems to respond overwhelmingly positive to Obama. I think this will help us with the great challenges of the future, because we don't have to go alone on

...a war with terrorists
...a challenge to find solutions to an energy crisis

McCain played out his election as his advisors told him. I honestly don't think McCain is as petty as his own ads betray him to be. The problem is that McCain as president would immediately have a giant rift not only in the world, but in our country to deal with.

My feelings on this election are that independent of who wins, the GOP is going to be purging it's old world leaders who are out of touch. This is probably a really good thing for the GOP. Perhaps in the future they will be able to reform in a more big-tent fashion. However until then, it's hard to take them as a legitimate option.

The Democrats certainly are not perfect, but I admire the vision of the party. It's a more inclusive USA.

T
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2008 09:42 am
@Jeremiah,
Jeremiah wrote:

You are telling us that your personal gain from the election of BO as President will make you FEEL GOOD?
Tell us, how does feeling good put food on your table. How does feeling good put a roof over your head. How will feeling good prevent another 911....................


1) by slowing the republican export of jobs to outsourced countries. by giving tax breaks that reward business' for keeping those jobs in the u.s., the average american will be able to provide for his family and his roof.

2) prevent another 9/11? nobody can absolutely guarantee your safety anywhere/anytime, so man up and get over it . that said, it will be an automatic improvement to have an administration that actually pays attention to what's going on around them. and actually reads the pdb and such.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2008 12:08 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
DTOM, Good post.
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2008 12:27 pm
@Jeremiah,
That you see the concepts I described as only "feeling good" is a defect I cannot correct. Give some thought to it and maybe you'll figure it out. Ask your buddies over on Coulter's forum to help you out with it if the task is too complicated.

Here's a hint, it isn't about "what's in it for me."

DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2008 02:05 pm
@Butrflynet,
Butrflynet wrote:

That you see the concepts I described as only "feeling good" is a defect I cannot correct.


jeez, bfn; don't you know that it's loads easier to manipulate the people when they "feel bad"? it's almost as good as keeping 'em scared sh*tless. Laughing
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2008 02:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

DTOM, Good post.


muchas gracias, ci. where ya been the last few days? it's getting really interesting now that we're in the homestretch. Wink
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