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The Democrats' contempt for democracy

 
 
Italgato
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 02:24 am
The University of Michigan's Law School is better than Harvard, Yale or Stanford's law schools?
Get real, Joe from Chicago, you know better than that. You know that the superiority of a Law School depends in large measure on the students in that School.

It's simple. The best candidates go to the best schools.
You didn't miss the press release, Joe from Chicago, Judge Bork doesn't issue press releases for his books.

Your attempt to denigrate Judge Bork is defeated by the fact that the University of Michigan's Law School never had a law professor as good as Judge Bork.


You win nothing Joe from Chicago, Judge Bork said that Mill was the patron saint of Liberalism. I indicated that the person with the most expertise, you or judge Bork would decide about Mill's place.

You said You won. You had more expertise than Bork.

Poor fellow. Bork would bury you in the third row of your Constitutional Law Class if he put his expertise to work on you.

I know you don't have to answer this, Joe from Chicago, but I know a few lawyers. One of my sons is a corporate lawyer> They work long hours and they work hard.

What is a Michigan Law School graduate doing with all of the time available to post on these posts.

You sure don't work for big law, that's for sure.

You apparently give Posner four stars out of five. I must commend you for that. Professor Hobibit apparently hasn't read any Posner so he denigrates him without even knowing anything about him. Typical of a left wing ideologue.
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I base my opinion concerning the idiotic stance of the ACLU concerning nude dancing as speech on the fact that the ACLU apparently doesn't realize that the Supreme Court is the highest court in the land and is usually not disposed to go back to revisit cases already adjudicated.

As soon as I can get myhands on a ACLU list of lawyers, I will give a rundown on the ACLU lawyer education.

I am sure that Martindale-Hubbell will show that many of the ACLU types went to school at places such as: Nova; John Marshall, etc.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 03:28 am
An "argument that is intended to divert from the real issues," is properly called a red herring, from its (red herring) use to distract hunting dogs from the trail.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 09:50 am
And silly squabbles are tedious, apart from the stench of smoldering straw and rotting fish.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 12:49 pm
Italgato wrote:
The University of Michigan's Law School is better than Harvard, Yale or Stanford's law schools?

I never said anything of the sort. I said that the US News & World Reports rankings that you've cited are unreliable. I provided links to substantiate my claim, and stand by that statement.

Italgato wrote:
Get real, Joe from Chicago, you know better than that. You know that the superiority of a Law School depends in large measure on the students in that School.

Not according to US News & World Reports. Really, gato, you need to keep your baseless claims straight -- you're starting to confuse even yourself.

Italgato wrote:
You didn't miss the press release, Joe from Chicago, Judge Bork doesn't issue press releases for his books.

Fact or opinion?

Italgato wrote:
Your attempt to denigrate Judge Bork is defeated by the fact that the University of Michigan's Law School never had a law professor as good as Judge Bork.

How do you know? Where's your evidence?

Italgato wrote:
You win nothing Joe from Chicago, Judge Bork said that Mill was the patron saint of Liberalism. I indicated that the person with the most expertise, you or judge Bork would decide about Mill's place.

You did nothing of the sort.

Italgato wrote:
You said You won. You had more expertise than Bork.

I never said I had more expertise than Bork.

Italgato wrote:
Poor fellow. Bork would bury you in the third row of your Constitutional Law Class if he put his expertise to work on you.

I tended to sit near the back of the class for Constitutional Law. The first three rows were reserved for gunners.

Italgato wrote:
I know you don't have to answer this, Joe from Chicago, but I know a few lawyers. One of my sons is a corporate lawyer> They work long hours and they work hard.

I'll answer that, but first you have to put it in the form of a question.

Italgato wrote:
What is a Michigan Law School graduate doing with all of the time available to post on these posts.

For you, gato, I make the time available.

Italgato wrote:
You sure don't work for big law, that's for sure.

Big law? I work for the same-sized law as everyone else, I imagine.

Italgato wrote:
You apparently give Posner four stars out of five. I must commend you for that. Professor Hobibit apparently hasn't read any Posner so he denigrates him without even knowing anything about him. Typical of a left wing ideologue.

I did not give Posner any stars. I was not ranking Posner on any scale. Rankings are your bag, gato, not mine.

Italgato wrote:
I base my opinion concerning the idiotic stance of the ACLU concerning nude dancing as speech on the fact that the ACLU apparently doesn't realize that the Supreme Court is the highest court in the land and is usually not disposed to go back to revisit cases already adjudicated.

Strawman argument.

Italgato wrote:
As soon as I can get myhands on a ACLU list of lawyers, I will give a rundown on the ACLU lawyer education.

I await with rapt anticipation.

Italgato wrote:
I am sure that Martindale-Hubbell will show that many of the ACLU types went to school at places such as: Nova; John Marshall, etc.

You get right to work, gato, I eagerly await your findings.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 12:51 pm
InfraBlue wrote:
An "argument that is intended to divert from the real issues," is properly called a red herring, from its (red herring) use to distract hunting dogs from the trail.

That is quite correct. Now try telling gato that.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 01:03 pm
"There's no better way of exercising the imagination than the study of law. No poet ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer interprets truth."
Jean Giraudoux
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 01:27 pm
As a specialist on the medieval Church, I would hazard a guess that St. Claire of Asissi should probably be the patron saint of liberals, wouldn't you think?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 01:32 pm
hobitbob wrote:
As a specialist on the medieval Church, I would hazard a guess that St. Claire of Asissi should probably be the patron saint of liberals, wouldn't you think?


A really good choice.

I could add a male modern Saint: Don Bosco.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 01:38 pm
And for the conservatives, Don Corleone! Smile
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 01:43 pm
Laughing
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 01:49 pm
A2K is filled with posts by our more liberal members, which convey evidence of the initial assertion of this thread.

The majority of Americans are viewed by this contingent as too stupid to arrive at the same conclusions as the liberals have. I have seen at least one of our libs make a statement that these 'dullards' shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Liberal-biased OpEd pieces address this sentiment, as well.

Rather than try to assail those who bring this issue, why not discuss the issue? It has merit.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 01:52 pm
To be quite honest with you, Sofia, both parties seem equaly unintersted in democracy.
BTW, did the storm make it inland to where you were? I sitll laugh at the mental images generated by your comment that "all of Savannah' fled to where you live.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 02:05 pm
The East Coast didn't get much of a hurricane this time around ... downgraded to Category 2 before landfall, Category 1 shortly thereafter, and relagated within hours of that to Tropical Depression. None of that discouraged The Media. Those folks have a real perky way of fluffing up a non-event into hours of "insightful coverage" ... or should that be written as "inciteful coverage"?
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 02:08 pm
My friends in Baltimore didn't egt hit as hard as they expected to, altuogh my favourite greasy spoon in the world may have been driven out of business. Sad
A review of Jimmy's from Virtual Tourist
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perception
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 03:33 pm
Timber:

I surprised you consider being without power a non-event --- at last count there were 3.5 million in that category. Been there and done that a couple of times--each time for about a week-----no fun. We were lucky this time ----- just on the edge of the wind
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 03:45 pm
The whole concept of saying Democrats have contempt for democracy is just a bait and exchange insults tactic. Anyone with good sense knows most Democrats respect democracy. The average Republican voting American also respects democracy. The only disagreement is over how to keep it alive.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 03:51 pm
Good point, edgar. The contempt for democracy is roughly equal at either fringe, I would suspect. The vast majority, Demorat, Republican, or Independent, have a much clearer view, and firmer foundation, than do any of the extremists, regardless of stripe. Problem is, the extremists put more effort into making sure their viewpoint is heard than do normal folk. The Media helps 'em do it, too. What news is there in commonplace stuff? What sells is the abnormal and fantastic.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 04:02 pm
One way to keep democracy alive is to abolish the electoral college. If a presidential candidate gets the popular vote, he should be the PRESIDENT.
And for the determined, relentless voters, do everything you can to be informed in spite of the strangle hold that George W. Bush has put on the fair and objective goals of the FCC. The Supreme Court should never..NEVER determine who will be the leader of the free world.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 04:18 pm
The Supreme Court hasn't determined who will be the leader of the free world. Bush is only president of the United States. Bush is the one who promotes himself as the leader of the free world. We're just stuck with paying the bill for his costume changes while he tries to convince the rest of the free world of his leadership abilities.

As for the electoral college, I'm not convinced it is all that bad, not when we have large portions of populous votes not counted at all due to the format of the voting and dirty tricks both sides encourage when it comes to the voting process.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2003 06:08 pm
I want to identify myself with the remarks Edgar and Timber just made.

They have hit the nail squarely on its head.

My thanks to both.
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