Who won the debate? Obama or McCain?

The real question should be, "where's the old McCain?" With all his recent flip-flops, I haven't heard one conservative tell us where he stands on the major issues of our day.

cicerone imposter wrote:

The real question should be, "where's the old McCain?" With all his recent flip-flops, I haven't heard one conservative tell us where he stands on the major issues of our day.

Ha, ci, McCain is the same old McCain, he has not changed one iota. Your vision and hearing may have changed.

Soldier's mother 'ecstatic' about Obama's bracelet

By DINESH RAMDE " 1 day ago

MILWAUKEE (AP) " The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" when Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama mentioned during Friday's debate the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.

Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that Obama remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.

Jopek criticized Internet reports suggesting Obama, D-Ill., exploited her son for political purposes.

"I don't understand how people can take that and turn it into some garbage on the Internet," she said.

Jopek acknowledged e-mailing the Obama campaign in February asking that the presidential candidate not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she said Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee, said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet.

"I've got a bracelet, too, from Sergeant " from the mother of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek, given to me in Green Bay," Obama said during the debate. "She asked me, 'Can you please make sure another mother is not going through what I'm going through?' No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they're carrying out the missions of their commander in chief. And we honor all the service that they've provided."

Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on the war.

She wouldn't directly say whether she wanted Obama to refrain from mentioning the bracelet again, but said she hopes the issue will just go away.

"I think these bracelets should be looked upon as an honor that both candidates wear them to respect the troops," Jopek said. "My request to both of them is that they honor the troops by lifting the conversation to the issues, and that they continue to live up to the standards our military deserves."

so okie, you ever been wrong?

Yes, I keep forgetting that cyclops represents a cross section of normal hard working Americans. I should have known that Berkeley residents are typical of America! LOL. After all, he seems to think so, and cyclops is never wrong, is he? I've never heard him say he was, so he must not have been.

dyslexia wrote:

so okie, you ever been wrong?

Lots of times, dys.

okie wrote:

dyslexia wrote:

so okie, you ever been wrong?

Lots of times, dys.

Odd that Idon't remember seeing you post here re being wrong EVER.

dyslexia wrote:

okie wrote:

dyslexia wrote:

so okie, you ever been wrong?

Lots of times, dys.

Odd that Idon't remember seeing you post here re being wrong EVER.

To be fair, Okie has posted in the past that he's been wrong on some issues.

As have I, Okie, so let's stop with the silly accusations.

Cycloptichorn

okie wrote:

Yes, I keep forgetting that cyclops represents a cross section of normal hard working Americans. I should have known that Berkeley residents are typical of America! LOL. After all, he seems to think so, and cyclops is never wrong, is he? I've never heard him say he was, so he must not have been.

Frantic spinning after being caught out on a BS article is unbecoming of you, Okie.

You don't know the first thing about Berkeley, or what it's like; so why do you presume to judge?

Cycloptichorn

Mr. Bozell also discussed Sen. Obama's continuing to wear and discuss the bracelet of fallen soldier Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, and how his family has been asking since at least March that he stop doing so.