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The Presidential Debates!

 
 
Lambchop
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 03:20 pm
@sozobe,
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The first time the candidates can direct questions to each other? Really? Smile


Hmm. That should make things more interesting! Smile
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 03:40 pm
@Lambchop,
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it, though.
jove
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 07:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
~What you ^ said.

~"Our credit is totally ruined. We God and i-

thought thee Enron executives and Lucent executives would do the right thing and pay back the money they stole from us (we could have paid over~due credit card's with 'said monies.',
but that isn't what happened in real life , therfore God and i have credit that is so bad thugs wouldn't steal our identity. You'll see Amen.
sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 07:14 pm
Department of no comment:

Kevin Drum wrote:
CYNICISM WATCH....A couple of hours ago I suggested that maybe John McCain would try to postpone the first debate to October 2nd because that would then eliminate the vice presidential debate. (So sad....) I thought I was just being hackishly cynical when I said that, but no: according to CNN, that's exactly what McCain is proposing. The VP debate would then be "rescheduled." (Perhaps to November 5th, joked Dana Milbank.)

My lesson for the day: No matter how hackishly cynical you think you are, you're no match for the hackish cynicism of the McCain campaign.
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 07:26 pm
@sozobe,
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Kevin Drum wrote:
CYNICISM WATCH....A couple of hours ago I suggested that maybe John McCain would try to postpone the first debate to October 2nd because that would then eliminate the vice presidential debate. (So sad....) I thought I was just being hackishly cynical when I said that, but no: according to CNN, that's exactly what McCain is proposing. The VP debate would then be "rescheduled." (Perhaps to November 5th, joked Dana Milbank.)

My lesson for the day: No matter how hackishly cynical you think you are, you're no match for the hackish cynicism of the McCain campaign.


I was actually wondering if there'd be a VP debate.
I do hope there still will be. Wouldn't miss it (or the bits we'll see in Oz) for quids!
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jove
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 07:28 pm
@jove,
"Be careful what you ask for you're going to get it." "All of you amen."

"Good luck amen." Anonymous.Amen. (}-8 (()-}&={>>>}==8==LLU=*==8^^88$ Allwe have amen.
jove
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 08:08 pm
@jove,
"I we didn't shake before using amen~
nimh
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 09:02 pm
@jove,
Are you purposefully not making any sense, or is that more of an accidental thing?
talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 09:57 pm
@FreeDuck,
The last time concessions were made for Bush and we now see how terribly bad he is. Concessions made for a candidate in a presidential debate shows he/she is not prepared for the job as proven with the candidacy of GWB. McCain wants concessions or delays so he can bone up on the economy. The presidency is not a classroom. You don't learn on the job. America cannot afford another presidential trainee. Look how bad the present presidential trainee turned out.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:13 pm
My sister is working on the Hill. She seems to believe that this whole thing is going to pass by Friday so why McCain would even need to move the debate is beyond me.

I'm with soz though. In a time like this, a debate may be needed more than ever. We want to know about the next administrations thoughts on things like oversight etc.

Not a smart move for McCain.

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:48 pm
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Would You Believe ...?

Perhaps this will shine an unflattering light on my psyche. But, like many of you, I have a busy schedule, with lots of work obligations and meetings. I also end up doing a decent number of panel discussions and speeches, though I try hard to keep those to a minimum. And like everyone, sometimes I get tired or overwhelmed and I wish I could get out of this or that responsibility.

Occasionally in these moments, in a perverse kind of private entertainment, I've found myself imagining what would happen if I pawned off on someone just the ballsiest, most inane excuse for flaking on some commitment. And not something that people might buy -- nothing entertaining about that -- but just something completely off the wall and nonsensical. What would people's reaction be? Speechless, laughter, tearing me limb from limb? Would they ever speak to me again?

So, let's see, I can't moderate the panel because I've been called to Washington to give a special briefing on guerilla tactics to be used against the Taliban?

Or maybe, I want to be at the meeting, but as weird as this sounds, all the bridges and tunnels out of Manhattan have been shut for the day. Some counter-terrorism thing probably. I tried renting a helicopter but they're all booked by people at the UN.

Isn't this pretty much what John McCain tried to pull today? But actually really did it? And on a national stage? He wants to cancel the debate? And maybe also Palin's debate. Are you kidding? Why not cancel the election too? And because he has to go back to DC to solve the financial crisis? Really? The topic he knows nothing about and after he's shown up less in the senate in the last two years than anyone but Tim Johnson, the guy who had the stroke? Which of my employees is going to call from home tomorrow and say they can't come to work because of the financial crisis?

One of the advantages of running a presidential campaign is that roughly half the country is deeply committed to believing or at least saying that virtually anything you do or say makes sense. And so it is here. But, look, if you were living in the real world, if you were some hotshot young executive at a Fortune 500 company trying to rise in the ranks, and you pulled some whacked crap like this, it would probably get you blackballed permanently. People would think you were either deeply unreliable or maybe just had a screw loose. And yet here he is -- is he kidding? He can't debate Barack Obama because he's got to go to Washington and save the economy? It's like the biggest 'dog at my homework' in history.

--Josh Marshall


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/219520.php

Cycloptichorn
barackman28
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 12:10 am
@Cycloptichorn,
I believe that the McCain handlers have seen the handwriting on the wall and will do anything to let McCain avoid a confrontation with Senator Obama on anything to do with domestic issues. Maybe they are praying for a hurricane to hit on the day they finally schedule the domestic issue debate.

McCain seems to be cynically trying to get Senator Obama under the 'let's all agree on what has to be done for the economy in this crisis" tent so he can blunt any of Senator Obama's criticisms of the economy by indicating that --after all, we both worked (week of Sept.22-26) to solve theproblems of the economy.

I hope that Senator Obama will try to distance himself deftly from that kind of co-optation!
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 12:36 am
@barackman28,
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13883.html

Palin to suspend campaign as well. Because. Yaknow. She's gotta go to Washington and fix stuff. I guess.

Cycloptichorn
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 01:33 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Josh Marshall wrote:
He can't debate Barack Obama because he's got to go to Washington and save the economy? It's like the biggest 'dog at my homework' in history.
Laughing
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 04:27 am
McCain has gone from taking risks to pulling stunts. This is going to hurt him. However, IMO squaring off in front of Obama would have hurt him a lot more.

He owes the American people this audience.

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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 05:56 am
@Diest TKO,


The American people will have an extended audience with McCain as soon as he is finished working this financial situation out.

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 07:20 am
Obama is happy that the debate has been postponed because he is afraid to face McCain.

McCain invited Obama to join him in ten different town hall style meetings and Obama refused to participate in any of the meetings.


Obama is afraid to face McCain.

nimh
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 07:45 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
The American people will have an extended audience with McCain as soon as he is finished working this financial situation out.


We'll start with alexadav, who asked, "How is McCain going to "solve" the bailout bill? He isn't in the majority, he isn't in the executive branch, he isn't in Republican leadership, and he isn't on the relevant committees...

I frankly don't want a man who thought the fundamentals of our economy were sound 8 days ago directing or even giving input on how to fix the very obviously broken economy."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dot.comments/2008/09/mccains_gamble.html
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 08:09 am
@nimh,


I really don't want a freshman senator that thinks the situation is not serious to be elected president.

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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2008 12:06 pm
Evidently Obama is set to go even if McCain doesn't show:

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Barack Obama is committed to hosting a public, televised event Friday night in Mississippi even if John McCain does not show up, an official close to the Obama campaign tells the Huffington Post.

In McCain's absence, the Senator is willing to make the scheduled debate a townhall meeting, a one-on-one interview with NewsHour's Jim Lehrer, or the combination of the two, the official said.


However, they seem to think McCain WILL show:

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"I actually think he's going to come to the debate," the adviser, Robert Gibbs, told reporters in Washington on Thursday.

And echoing a talking point that Senator Obama used in his press conference on Thursday, Mr. Gibbs added: "I think he will decide that a president is capable of doing more than one thing at a time."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/obama-will-make-debate-a_n_129250.html
 

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