Lipstick vs. Uppity

@parados,

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Libs have been thrashing it? Who produced an ad on the lipstick issue that had to be pulled because of copyright violations? It wasn't libs. No one except the people at the speech would have noticed it if the GOP hadn't made it an issue. The problem is that most people recognize it is NOT an issue. It is just another attempt to put lipstick on the pig.

Finally, a lib/progressive with some honesty! Thank you, parados.

I'm glad you (out of all the libs/progressives here) finally acknowledged the people at the speech noticed Obama's comments for what they were. But don't you think it would be a tad naive for others to not notice it, also?

And that's simply what happened here. And just like when the Obama camp took McCain's 100 years in Iraq comment out of context and spun it to the masses, the repubs did so like wise here.

Buy the repubs had the advantage of taking a shot at the dems aimed at one of their precepts: words hurt.

You know, the 'ol shoe on the other foot thing.

I'll agree the repubs need to drop this, before they start to look like whining libs/progressives themselves. This stance isn't going to play well with their independent-minded peoples... Smile

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In the mean time, our economy is going to hell. Will lipstick sales revive it?

Troups are dying in Afghanistan. Can Palin save them?

BBB

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@A Lone Voice,

Do you read English? "No one except the people at the speech..."

Of course the people at the speech heard it: they were at the speech!

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@DrewDad,

No one except the people at the speech would have noticed it if the GOP hadn't made it an issue.

And?....

I agree. Only the people at the speech would have cackled and laughed and clapped and come to life when Obama made his comment IF the GOP hadn't made it an issue.

But they made it an issue, didn't they?

What is YOUR take on the audience, Drew Dad? Do you think they were simply responding to another dazzling Obama piece? He seemed kind of tired and not up to his usually speechifying excellence there, and looking at some of the slack jawed people behind him (before his lipstick comment), I think the audience might have agreed...

But please, DD, tell me your viewpoint about the audience reaction. Do you think they had no clue or intention or reference to Palin's 'hockey mom lipstick' comment when they responded to Obama? Do tell, and please try to be intellectually honest...

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@A Lone Voice,

I said this earlier but will say it again -- this is Obama's central message. It's why, in large part, he's the Democratic nominee.

His message is -- Washington is messed up. We need to change it.

McCain may be trying to claim that as his own message but it rings false. People won't be fooled. It's lipstick on a pig, a stinky fish wrapped in newspaper... still a pig. Still stinky.

That's a message that's gonna get applause.

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I agree with the others here. It wasn't a gaffe. She is a pig in lipstick. There's nothing sexist about calling her that. It's not an anti-female term in any way.

And Obama will not and should not apologize for telling the truth: that McCain and Palin are old, tired Bush policies and Rove politics, wrapped up in a cloak of false honor and pretty features.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

A second honest lib/progressive! Thanks again.

Could be a great strategy, as it plays well to the far left of his base. But then again, he already has you guys locked up...

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@Cycloptichorn,

Wait, but he wasn't referring to Palin. He was referring to McCain's policies. Palin hadn't come up at that point.

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@sozobe,

Do you really believe that Obama is going to be elected and change 90% of the things that that have been done the last 8 years? I say 90% because that is the number that McCain has been accused of supporting Bush by.

What is it exactly Obama is going to change?

Housing? He is going to no longer provide support for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? How is he going to change the fact that liberals in Congress screwed the pooch by lowering regulations on who can and can't get mortgages? Is he going to make it more difficult for poor people to get mortgages?

Economy? Can he miracle the dollar to be worth more? Can he make there be less demand for oil around the world? Can he hire the unemployed?

blah, blah, blah, I am tired of writing at the moment. Change is a buzzword that both candidates use as though either of them could actually bend congress to their will.

Obama will be the same Rubber stamp Bush was to a Democratically controlled congress and Obama would be an obstructionist. Personally, I'm more in favor of the obstructionist as we've seen the trouble a rubber stamp causes, haven't we? Is that the change your looking for?

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@A Lone Voice,

A Lone Voice wrote:

A second honest lib/progressive! Thanks again.

Could be a great strategy, as it plays well to the far left of his base. But then again, he already has you guys locked up...

What's there to be dishonest about? Palin is what your Goddess Coulter would call a 'nothing burger.' She's a shiny distraction from the fact that McCain has become the shadow of Bush, but older and if possible with dumber ideas.

Why hide that? Her compelling life story doesn't mean she knows how to run the country. It's a lot more difficult to govern when you don't have gigantic cash surpluses and mountains of federal pork with which to buy off your populace.

Cycloptichorn

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@sozobe,

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I said this earlier but will say it again -- this is Obama's central message. It's why, in large part, he's the Democratic nominee.

His message is -- Washington is messed up. We need to change it.

McCain may be trying to claim that as his own message but it rings false. People won't be fooled. It's lipstick on a pig, a stinky fish wrapped in newspaper... still a pig. Still stinky.

That's a message that's gonna get applause.

Let's change Washington by selecting a VP who in entrenched in old Washington? You can't find more of a party-minded political hack than Joe Biden.

I was very interested in Obama initially, mainly due to his outsider status. But his failure to challange his own party - who I happen to disagree with on most issues anyway because of their big government approach - made me realize Obama would NOT be a change agent.

I'm glad Bush is going. But at least McCain has shown some independence from his own party. Obama has shown none...

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@A Lone Voice,

A Lone Voice wrote:

I'm glad Bush is going. But at least McCain has shown some independence from his own party. Obama has shown none...

mccain used to show independence from his own party. he seems to have given that up for political expediency. he's flip flopped all over the place. now he just pitches the same old crap as bush and his bunch.

if you're going to criticize obama for walking the party platform, you have to make the same pronouncement on mccain.

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@A Lone Voice,

parados?

Drew Dad?

(Sound of crickets in the back ground...)

C'mon, guys, sally forth with your response. I'm interested in what you have to say...

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@A Lone Voice,

I agree that Obama should apoligize for the pig comment. But he should do so to the pigs. To compare a pig to a politician is just not fair to the pig.

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@sozobe,

sozobe wrote:

Wait, but he wasn't referring to Palin. He was referring to McCain's policies. Palin hadn't come up at that point.

I thought Obama handled it great on David Letterman.

Dave: “Yeah, they got together and they said, ‘You know what? He called our vice presidential candidate a pig.’” (audience laughs) “Well, that seems pretty unlikely, doesn’t it?”

Obama: “It does. But keep in mind that, technically, had I meant it that way, she would have been the lipstick, you see?” (audience, Dave laugh) “But now we’re…”

Dave: “I don’t know, you’re way ahead of me.” (audience laughs)

Obama: “Yeah, the failed policies of John McCain would be the pig.”

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@A Lone Voice,

A Lone Voice at 12:13 a.m. wrote:

parados?

Drew Dad?

(Sound of crickets in the back ground...)

Yup. Gonna get crickets when you post at midnight, dearie.

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@DrewDad,

That's nothing more than scripted damage control.

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@DrewDad,

...and we're still avoiding answering the question, aren’t we sweetie?

Tell me your view of Obama's audience. And remember, let's stay intellectually honest here.

Parados? Still waiting...

Nothing like libs/progressives in avoidance mode...

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@A Lone Voice,

The audience is your little obsession, not mine.

IMO what he said was perfectly acceptable.

And color me suspicious, but is that you Lashie?

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@A Lone Voice,

Wow..
Talk about complete failure to read and understand.

The phrase is NOT and was NEVER about Palin.

If you don't understand simple English and can't understand what I wrote, it's no wonder you are confused about the phrase. Your convoluted posts where you pretend to find meaning where there is none is nothing but an attempt on your part to put lipstick on your stupidity.

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