@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:
sozobe wrote:
Still, Brandon?
What she was saying... over and over again until recently... is that she had said "Thanks but no thanks to that Bridge to Nowhere." That's just not true.
If anything, she said "please??" and then when Congress said no she said "fine, but thanks for the money!" Which she kept.
That's the short version -- if you're actually still arguing that it's not a flat-out lie I'm happy to do a longer version. It's been a couple of days though (just saw this) and I'll see if you have recognized that it's a lie yet first.
Meanwhile, new lies (Palin or McCain? Not clear who lied more but will put it here since it's ABOUT Palin):
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/she-lied-about.html
Yes, as difficult as it is to believe, I still haven't accepted the undeniable truth of your position. I'll reproduce a few quotations of I posted earlier in this thread:
From 3/31/2007:
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...Former Gov. Frank Murkowski in his recommended budget to Gov. Sarah Palin included $195 million for Ketchikan’s bridges. That proposed funding is not in Palin’s recommended budget.
The project has been criticized nationally as a “road to nowhere.”
In 2005, Congress stripped off earmarks of federal funds for the Gravina bridge but sent the $223 million to the state. Much of that money was diverted to other state projects. Only $91 million of federal receipts was left for the Gravina Island bridge in the state’s FY07 enacted capital budget.
Charles Fedullo, Palin’s deputy press secretary, said there is not money in Palin’s capital budget for the project at this time.
“The governor introduced the base capital budget with projects only that would leverage additional federal dollars,” Fedullo said....
http://www.constructionequipmentguide.com/story.asp?story=8393&headline=Alaska%20Increases%20Project%20Costs%20for%20Ketchikan%20Bridge
and from 12/16/2007:
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...She also took some bold steps, such as canceling the Gravina bridge project, derided nationally as a "Bridge to Nowhere," a move that alienated some in Ketchikan, one of Southeast Alaska's most Republican communities...
http://alaskalegislature.com/stories/121607/leg_20071216020.shtml
Therefore, even if she supported the thing at some early point, she did indeed turn against it and refuse to fund it. Therefore, when she claims to have rejected the project, she is being truthful.
Of course, everyone knows that McCain and Palin are evil liars, and Obama and Biden are Christ-like saviors.
Brandon, look at the dates on those. By 2007, the bridge had been killed by national Republicans. It was clear to everyone that there was not going to be money appropriated for it.
And hell, the stories you link to disprove your own theory. She didn't refuse to fund it; she refused to spend
Alaskan taxpayer money to fund it, but was perfectly willing to spend
American taxpayer money on it. She didn't think it was a bad idea. She didn't turn against it. The issue turned against her, and when the project was abandoned by the national party she abandoned it as well.
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...Former Gov. Frank Murkowski in his recommended budget to Gov. Sarah Palin included $195 million for Ketchikan’s bridges. That proposed funding is not in Palin’s recommended budget.
195 million was the portion that the state budget was to pay for the bridge. Once it became clear that the state would have to foot the entire bill, Palin didn't do it.
And that's not
saying 'thanks, but no thanks' to the bill. That's not fighting earmarks. That's not reform. That's having your national party turn on your money train. She didn't save anyone any money and she wasn't cutting down on waste.
It really gives the lie to the whole fake persona the McCain campaign has decided to slap on this lady; it just doesn't add up, the idea that she somehow morphed from a pork-barrel loving mayor, into a pork-barrel loving Governor, into a hater of pork and a reform candidate, in an extremely short amount of time. We don't normally tolerate flip-flops in opinion by our candidates on issues such as this without giving it unflattering names - such as 'flip-flop.' You guys hit Kerry with that one about a billion times.
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As to the matter of the "bridge to nowhere," the two contemporaneous quotations about the issue which I have now posted twice in this thread demonstrate that Governor Palin is simply stating a fact when she claims to have refused to fund the bridge.
Sure - out of the
State budget. She was perfectly willing and eager to take national money to build it. She certainly didn't say no to Congress and she certainly didn't refuse any money from Congress. This is not the way the issue has been presented by the McCain campaign. They have been dishonest in the extreme on the issue.
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