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Sarah Palin lies

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 11:04 am
@Woiyo9,
You do know how to stretch the truth; the market value was mentioned, not the book value. They took a "loss" on the sale.

Quote:
Instead, the 23-year-old 10-seat Westwind II was sold in August 2007 for $2.1 million to a Valdez, Alaska, entrepreneur; that’s about $300,000 less than a broker’s asking price, according to news accounts.
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 11:13 am
@cicerone imposter,
Do you know what the book value was?

Have you ever heard of a 10 year old Jet appreciate in value?

What is your point (besides the one on top of your little head)?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 11:20 am
@Woiyo9,
You are dumber than dumb; it's the market value that should take precedence over sales price, not the book value. It seems you don't even understand the rules of depreciation; some equipment are allowed to be written off in one year.
That doesn't mean the market value is zero.
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 11:31 am
@cicerone imposter,
You do not understand the concept. That is clear.

You have NO IDEA so all you can do is call me dumb.

Just so you know, it is 7 years for airplanes.

Tell me the last time you sold a plane for more than you bought it for.

So, where exactly did Mrs. Palin lie again?
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 02:04 pm
@Debra Law,
McCain said, "She took the luxury jet that was purchased by her predecessor and sold it on eBay " and made a profit."

Woiyo9 calls McCain a fool: "She never said she SOLD IT on E-Bay you fool."
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 02:21 pm
@Debra Law,
Palin Rocks !!
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 02:28 pm
@H2O MAN,
Paleontology Rocks!
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 02:39 pm
@Woiyo9,
woiyo9 wrote:
You agree she never said she sold it on E-Bay. So the idiot who wrote the article purposely mislead YOU.


The author of the article is not an idiot. The author did not mislead me or anyone else. The article stated the following:

Quote:
When Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin sought to illustrate her frugality and flair to delegates at the GOP convention Wednesday, she described how she disposed of a corporate jet acquired by her unpopular predecessor.

"That luxury jet was over the top," Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, said to loud cheers. "I put it on eBay."

Palin's statement implied the plane was sold through the online auction site revered for empowering millions of small entrepreneurs, and Palin's spokeswoman insisted Thursday that the transaction occurred. But the plane failed to sell on eBay.


The author of the article reported that Palin's statement IMPLIED that she sold the jet on eBay. AGAIN, Palin's statement was crafted to mislead. Most people listening the speech would believe that Palin "got rid" of the jet on eBay. McCain himself may have believed she sold it on eBay. Here's what McCain said at a campaign stop in Cedarburg, Wisconsin:

"How many saw her speech a couple of nights ago? Wasn't it fabulous? You know what I enjoyed the most? She took the luxury jet that was purchased by her predecessor and sold it on eBay " and made a profit."

Because Palin never actually said that she sold the jet on eBay, and because she only falsely implied that she sold the plane on eBay, then McCain, according to your own words, is a FOOL.

Most intelligent people would agree that an individual makes a profit when he sells an item for more money than what he paid for it.

Are YOU capable of understanding that McCain lied to the public when he said that Palin sold the jet on ebay--and made a profit? Were McCain's lies the product of his foolishness (with himself being mislead by Palin's speech and by himself failing to do simple fact checking) or intentional? Either way, it doesn't say much for McCain.

Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 02:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
CI wrote: "It's funny how these conservatives stretch falsehood into truths when all the evidence says otherwise. They're not disturbed by the fact that when the facts are presented, they'll find other falsehoods to expand on their lies. It's an endless cycle that doesn't seem to phase them out of their stupor and idiocy."

It's their tiring policy of dishonesty and distraction. If we get tired of pointing out their falsehoods and distractions, they win! LOL
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 02:45 pm
@Debra Law,
Wow! This thread is chock full of meaningless liberal BS!
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 02:55 pm
@Debra Law,
Debra Law wrote:
Most intelligent people would agree that an individual makes a profit when he sells an item for more money than what he paid for it.

She did make a profit... in political capital with folks who believe her BS.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 02:56 pm
@Debra Law,
CI wrote: "It's funny how these conservatives stretch falsehood into truths when all the evidence says otherwise. They're not disturbed by the fact that when the facts are presented, they'll find other falsehoods to expand on their lies. It's an endless cycle that doesn't seem to phase them out of their stupor and idiocy."

I'm quoting you again because your words stress their excessive and continuing use of proven falsehoods. Case in point:

Obama campaign calls McCain ad a 'lie'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/08/obama-campaign-calls-mccain-ad-a-lie/

Quote:
(CNN) " The presidential campaigns of Barack Obama and John McCain are sparring over a new television ad claiming Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin stopped the “Bridge to Nowhere” " the infamous $400 million congressional earmark that became the ultimate symbol of excessive pork-barrel spending.

Watch: The McCain campaigns latest ad, 'The Original Mavericks'

The new McCain ad, set to air in key states, calls both the Arizona senator and Palin "original mavericks," and characterizes the Alaska governor as an ardent opponent of the 2005 bridge proposal championed by Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens connecting Ketchikan, Alaska to the Ketchikan airport on Gravina Island (Population: 50).

Several opponents of Palin, as well as the non-partisan factcheck.org, have noted the claim she was against the bridge is not entirely accurate " the Alaska governor was for the bridge during her 2006 gubernatorial bid, and did not begin opposing it until it became clear the project was doomed on Capitol Hill.

Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton went even further Monday, calling the assertion a flat out "lie."

“Despite being discredited over and over again by numerous news organizations, the McCain campaign continues to repeat the lie that Sarah Palin stopped the Bridge to Nowhere," Burton said. "McCain and Palin will say or do anything to make people believe that they will change something besides the person sitting in the Oval Office."

But McCain spokesman Brian Rogers is standing by the claim, and said the Obama campaign is launching "hysterical attacks."

“The only people ‘lying’ about spending are the Obama campaign," Rogers said. "The only explanation for their hysterical attacks is that they’re afraid that when John McCain and Sarah Palin are in the White House, Barack Obama’s nearly $1 billion in earmark spending will stop dead in its tracks."

Rogers also provided several press clips noting Palin became a critic of the bridge in her early days as governor of Alaska.





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Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 03:16 pm
 http://sarahpalinexposed.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/palin_nowhere_shirt.jpg

Sarah Palin supported the proposed bridge to Ketchikan, Alaska 99901. While campaigning for governor in 2006, Sarah Palin displayed a t-shirt that pokes fun at national critics of the proposed "bridge to nowhere."
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 03:19 pm
@Debra Law,
Debra Law wrote:



Sarah Palin supported the proposed bridge to Ketchikan, Alaska 99901.


And then she worked to defeat 99901... good for her!
wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 03:22 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
And then she worked to defeat 99901... good for her!


She worked to defeat a zip code?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 03:23 pm
@wandeljw,
wandeljw wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:
And then she worked to defeat 99901... good for her!


She worked to defeat a zip code?


Yes and the bridge that was intended to go there.

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Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 03:23 pm
Another one:

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The Obama campaign sent out a memo today, along with the accompanying picture, to challenge Palin's claim that she opposed Ted Stevens' "Bridge to Nowhere" earmark.

(via email)

I Supported the Bridge to Nowhere and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/news.aol.com/political-machine/media/2008/09/palin-t-2.jpg

Given that the McCain campaign again claimed that Governor Palin opposed the "Bridge to Nowhere" in their new ad today despite the fact that the claim has been repeatedly debunked, we thought you'd be interested in seeing the following photograph from Governor Palin's 2006 campaign in which she's proudly posing with a t-shirt that reads "NOWHERE ALASKA 99901":

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 03:25 pm
@Debra Law,
We should all be proud that Palin worked to turn down federal funding for the bridge.

Sarah is a real workhorse!
Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 03:32 pm
Quote:
In October 2005, Republican Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska became the object of strong media criticism when he opposed diverting the Gravina and Knik Arm Bridge funds to help aid recovery from Hurricane Katrina.[8] In his speech on the Senate floor, Stevens threatened to quit Congress if the funds were removed from his state.[9]

In 2005,[10] Congress stripped the specific earmark allocation of federal funds for the two bridges, without changing the amount of money allocated for use by Alaska.[11]

"In September [20th], 2006, Sarah Palin showed up in Ketchikan on her gubernatorial campaign and said the bridge was essential for the town's prosperity." [12][13]During her campaign for Governor, Sarah Palin visited Ketchikan in September of 2006 to address her support for the Gravina Island Bridge project. At a forum in Ketchikan, Palin was seen holding up a t-shirt designed by a Ketchikan artist, Mary Ida Henrikson with "Nowhere Alaska 99901" on it, referencing the buzzword of Bridge to 'Nowhere', and the primary zip code of Ketchikan, Alaska. At the same forum, she was quoted: "OK, you’ve got Valley trash standing here in the middle of nowhere,” Palin said. “I think we’re going to make a good team as we progress that bridge project."[14]

On October 21, 2006 Alaska gubernatorial candidate Sarah Palin was quoted saying she would continue state funding for the bridge. "The window is now, while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist," she said.[15]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge

Interesting, the State of Alaska kept the money that was originally designated for a bridge the state never built--and opposed giving back the money to help the State of Louisiana rebuild after the devastation of Katrina.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 8 Sep, 2008 03:42 pm
@Debra Law,
Why don't more lesbians like Palin?
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