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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 01:11 pm
@brianjakub,
PS , Shouldnt you include HELLOnGOODBYE with your gang of researchers??
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brianjakub
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 06:03 am
@farmerman,
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Reading and spouting Wikipedia
. While I am spotting Wikipedia I understand what the science is describing because I can picture it. It is a lot easier to explain how an airplane flies if you know what it looks like rather than just explaining it mathematically.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 12:41 pm
@brianjakub,
While should I play your idiot games? Everything you post just makes clear that you don't understand any of these subjects, you just spout off as though knowing some of words equates with understanding. Your self-deception lies in your belief that you know what the hell you're talking about. (Once again, your English sucks, too.)
brianjakub
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 02:56 pm
@Setanta,
My English doesn’t suck as bad as my typing and my patience to edit. Which words am I using incorrectly?
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 04:18 pm
@brianjakub,
well YOU ARE NOW AGREEING WITH ME. Ha Ha Ha HAAAA.
(I recall that most of your retreats from discourse was to claim how you "reverse designed. or"worked out the mathematics" or did the math modelling".

So now you have retreated to the "conceptual" eh?

Which way do you want to be remembered??
1.If its as a math whiz, I think all weve been asking is that we be able to SEE YOUR WORK(Did teachers in your country use that term?)

2 If it is as a "Grand Conceptualizer" , then perhaps we should be able to just hear your propositions and givens.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 05:12 pm
@brianjakub,
I told you I will not play your games. You don't have anything to say which is on topic, do you? I thought not.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 06:48 pm
@farmerman,
Givens = Evidence.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2018 04:41 am
@cicerone imposter,
You had mentioned morality is ‘a man made concept’ on the previous page. This is a big challenge for evolutionism. Are you not willing to expand on this? Is Leadfoot correct that you are going to dodge this?

Evolutionism teaches We are nothing but mammals right? Nothing but modified fish, which are modified bacteria (pond scum), yes?
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2018 08:16 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
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Evolutionism teaches We are nothing but mammals right? Nothing but modified fish, which are modified bacteria (pond scum), yes?
you got problems with "just" mammals?? The rest of your knowledge of biological cladistics is on the low end of being uninformed. Thats ok, I never expect knowledge to get in the way of the funny Biblical stories that you guys continually pull outta yer asses and try to call it
Science".
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2018 09:24 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
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You had mentioned morality is ‘a man made concept’ on the previous page.
Try to figure this one out on your own. It's a very simple concept. You're trying too hard to make it what it isn't. Start with human language, then proceed from there.
brianjakub
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2018 08:02 pm
@farmerman,
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(I recall that most of your retreats from discourse was to claim how you "reverse designed. or"worked out the mathematics" or did the math modelling".

So now you have retreated to the "conceptual" eh?

Which way do you want to be remembered??
1.If its as a math whiz, I think all weve been asking is that we be able to SEE YOUR WORK(Did teachers in your country use that term?)

2 If it is as a "Grand Conceptualizer" , then perhaps we should be able to just hear your propositions and givens.


Conceptualizing is much more fun. Here is the math. It is not new it just shows how much easier it is to explain where the constants come from if you know what the structure of higgs bosons, the higgs field, and matter looks like. The explanation is harder to write than this simple math. The structure is easy to understand but hard to explain without a designer. There is nothing I can do about that though.

Fine structure constant can be defined as:


e=.8542455 or 85.42455 % of the strong force if you set the strong force equal to one. For any arbitrary length , the fine-structure constant is the ratio of two energies: (i) the energy needed to bring two electrons from infinity to a distance of against their electrostatic repulsion, and (ii) the energy of a single photon of wavelength . (or the weak force strong force ratio.) According to the theory of renormalization group, the value of the fine-structure constant (the strength of the electromagnetic interaction) depends on the energy scale. In fact, it grows logarithmically as the energy is increased. The observed value of is associated with the energy scale of the electron mass; the energy scale does not run below this because the electron (and the positron) is the lightest charged object whose quantum loops can contribute to the running. Therefore, we can say that 1/137.036 is the value of the fine-structure constant at zero energy. Moreover, as the energy scale increases, the electromagnetic interaction approaches the strength of the other two interactions, which is important for the theories of grand unification. If quantum electrodynamics were an exact theory, the fine-structure constant would actually diverge at an energy known as the Landau pole. This fact makes quantum electrodynamics inconsistent beyond the perturbative expansions.(from physical interpretation opf the fine structure constant) This would be the weak force strong force ratio as measured at the lowest energy level.
If the energy or spatial density of the electron is kept constant, at zero energy level or 2 degrees K is approached, spatial density or order must increase. At this highest level of order the angle of 58.6764 degrees is determined.
e=.8542455
inv sin(e)=58.6764 degrees
Since the fine structure constant is the ratio between the force separating two electrons which have received order by being a particle in matter (By receiving order, I mean the electrons as particles are following a specific path through their respective atoms by interacting with the quarks of the nucleus and the virtual particles of the higgs field through the higgs mechanism.) and the strong force holding the particles in the nucleus. That means 100 percent of the rotational energy that can be transferred is determined by inv sine(1) which equals 90 degrees. That is why when energy transfers across the nucleus of an atom (quantum tunneling) 100 percent of the energy transfers. But since atoms are tumbling in the higgs field and if one is to assume that both the higgs field and the atom are made up of embedded higgs bosons as suggested in embedded dimesions, the closest the particles can get to a perfect energy transfer is 60 degrees rather than the perfect 90 degrees. This is comparing energy flowing in order in the nucleus of atom to disorder in between two atoms as they interact where their electron clouds come into contact. If the quarks and virtual quarks had no permittivity, the electrons would couple at 60 degrees. That would make the fine structure constant sine(60degrees) or.866 without considering permittivity. But since permittivity and permeability of free space must be considered measured value of .854255 for the fine structure constant reveals that the electrons couple at 58.674 degrees at the lowest energy level.

This is lower than the 59.51 degrees that can be similarly backed out using Boltzmans constant of 8.617339 and dividing it by 10 to account for the embedded layer of order required when combining two higgs boson to create a unit of matter thus, giving us sine(.8617339). The gas law which requires less order (or less difference in spatial density in the higgs field) because a magnetic field must be set up to measure the fine structure constant. This magnetic field lowers the entropy or spatial density of the higgs field when compared to the hiffs field in the perfect gas measurement. Complete entropy, or maximum disorder, is the definition of a perfect gas.

This difference in constants brought on by changes in entropy is the same process Eric Verlinde used to explain gravity in Entropic Gravity.


I can explain that 10 to 1 ratio in more detail if you wish. The trick is it can only be explained by understanding the construction of a multidimensional universe before attempting to explain it mathematically. Even then backing out that 10 to 1 ratio purely mathematically might not be possible (because how does permittivity and permeability transfer across universes mathematically). But that 10 to 1 ratio is why the simple math I did is hiding from people who are basing physics purely on mathematical constructs.

I can also geometrically back out the other constants including the gravitational constant. The gravitational constant is a volume ratio constant rather than a a ratio comparing rotational energy.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 04:41 am
@brianjakub,
cmon, dont just glomp from Wiki sites.(And why the hell did you introduce Debye Huckel theory when that is usually done in polar coordintes for ion ic MIXTURES. Explain please how you jumped (It reminds me of
Vell SHudents ve vill derive ze ekvations for ze atomic shtrength of ze coordinate zystems but first ked me introduze ze rezipe for ze Cherman Choklate Cake).

You just posted some sort of results, wheres the actual work that follows your thought? .(Were you hoping people would just be impressed ???)

Maybe some others are, I am not. Remember what we said about dimensional equivalency?


Do you even know what youre posting ??
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 06:09 am
@cicerone imposter,
Guess leadfoot was right. As predicted. This says A lot!
brianjakub
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 10:50 am
@farmerman,
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You just posted some sort of results, wheres the actual work that follows your thought? .(Were you hoping people would just be impressed ???)
embeddeddimensions .com
When I first started doing this 15 years ago I didn't fully understand what was being put out by scientists when they described the higgs mechanism and the higgs field, dark energy, dark matter etc. . . I had the picture and needed to convert that picture to scientific terminology that was vague at best because they didn't know how to picture what their math was describing. I can show how to back out all the constants from the picture. I have to translate my notes and it takes some time. The picture of the arrangement of the quarks and virtual quarks that construct the higgs field and matter in Embedded Dimensions is correct. I know because I finished the work but it was in Brianspeak because, I didn't understand the scientific terminology, or science was using the terminology incorrectly or it just didn't exist when I came up with the idea. With Verlinde's introduction of entropic gravity (which is what embedded dimensions is physically providing a real picture of) he provided some more of the math and terminology I needed for the picture (Because I could only provide the geometry and I needed the math using relativity. The geometry will tie it to the Schrodinger equation and relativity.). I will post more about the rest of the constants shortly but, for now I have to chaperone a canoe trip for the Catholic Church high Schoolers down the Niobrara River. Must indoctrinate these young people about the Sky Daddy that created the Baroque structure in the higgs field needed for Entropic Gravity you know.

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Maybe some others are, I am not. Remember what we said about dimensional equivalency?


The fine structure constant is a dimensionless constant. Like I said I get the dimensions to match up in the other constants by showing there is a 10 to 1 ratio shift as we transform across universes inside an atom. (Yes there are multiple universes inside an atom and I know what they look like. Knowing what something looks like is mighty helpful when trying to figure out the math and how it works in reality. )

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Do you even know what youre posting ??


Yes but, I also know it is mathematically incomplete. The picture is correct. (please be patient) Concentrate on understanding the picture until I provide more math. (although enough math is already done by others to prove the picture is correct like how the Shroedinger equation reveals the shape of the atomic orbitals.)

The atom and the constants aren't any more complex than an automotive drive train.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 12:11 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
How was leadfoot right? There was a prediction? LOL
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 01:16 pm
@brianjakub,
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The fine structure constant is a dimensionless constant
Yet its got units. No, If youre gonna project brianspeak math is a constant measure of communication. Several of us have damn good backgrouns in advanced math. I do FFT's every day.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 10:05 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Right you are. But modified over 1.5 billion years.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2018 07:12 am
@cicerone imposter,
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How was leadfoot right? There was a prediction? LOL

Already forgotten that? Don’t blame you.

But it would be interesting to hear you try and defend 'morality' as a human invention.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2018 07:54 am
@RABEL222,
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Right you are. But modified over 1.5 billion years.

Citing time as a magic ingredient is no better than saying 'God did it'.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2018 10:17 am
@Leadfoot,
The word "morality" was created by someone. That someone was a human or homo sapien. The word has a meaning.
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Definition of morality in English:

morality
NOUN
mass noun
1Principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour.

‘the matter boiled down to simple morality: innocent prisoners ought to be freed’
More example sentencesSynonyms
1.1count noun A particular system of values and principles of conduct.
‘a bourgeois morality’
More example sentences
1.2 The extent to which an action is right or wrong.
‘the issue of the morality of the possession of nuclear weapons’
More example sentences
Origin
Late Middle English: from Old French moralite or late Latin moralitas, from Latin moralis (see moral).
 

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