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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 03:22 pm
@jespah,
A few more things to consider:
http://www.icr.org/creation-biology/
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brianjakub
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 04:57 pm
@farmerman,
Darwinists either have to believe in eugenics or deny the science behind their politics and instead base politics on Christian morals.
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 05:37 pm
@brianjakub,
That is utter babble-speak. What the hell are you trying to say? It is the god squad who get all worked up and start slinging around insulting characterizations, and using hilariously idiotic terms like "Darwinists." It's political for them--it's not political for those who merely consider evolution to be the best explanation of the diversity of life on earth. Who peed in your Wheaties today?
brianjakub
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 06:31 pm
@Setanta,
Nobody Peed in my Wheaties just stating the obvious. I am glad Darwinists don't mix science and morality. Once in a while they do and we end up with Nazi Germany .
brianjakub
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 06:33 pm
@brianjakub,
Darwinism is also a political point of view. The only one that is compatible with eugenics ..
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 07:07 pm
@brianjakub,
That's really disgusting, and it's a pathetic tactic of the intellectually bankrupt. The NSDAP rose to power because of Hitler's manipulation of the German constitution, and not because of a theory of evolution. But it must make you fell all warm and fuzzy inside to label those whom don't agree with Nazis, eh?
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Blickers
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 07:33 pm
@brianjakub,
Quote brianjakub:
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Darwinism is also a political point of view.
And, since Social Darwinism is a social belief, it has nothing to do whatsoever with the Darwinism of the field of biology. Even if Darwin felt there was a connection, the fact is that all his work and recognition is due to his biological research, not his social utterances. As a biologist, Darwin was a pro. As a social critic, he was just another Joe, whose opinion was not worth any more than the opinion of the man in the street.

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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 09:47 pm
@brianjakub,
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Darwinists either have to believe in eugenics or deny the science behind their politics and instead base politics on Christian morals.


Sounds like youre scraping the bottom of your Creationits Idea Bucket.
An idea bucket that willfully distorts and ignores history of the subject so it can be used to teach the science to "true believers" like you.
If you knew any better you could have a rousing argument on that last post of yours but youd need to spend waaay more time learning and I m beginning to doubt that youre bright enough to absorb two conflicting concepts at the same time.

Do some reading about Virginia' Racial Integrity and Sterilization Acts. Youll see that many our Christian "heroes" had supervisory hands in actual development of some really insane applications of Sir Francis Galton's more upbeat term of eugenics . Therefore these applications occurred about 40 years after his demise and were consequently quite unknown to the deceased Charles Darwin.



Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2018 10:15 pm
In Indiana, for Dog's sake, in 1907, long before the National Socialist German Workers' Party came along, the legislature passed a mandatory sterilization act for those deemed defectives. The Indiana Supreme Court eventually overturned the law--but then the Supremes upheld the constitutionality of the Virginia statute in 1924. Yeah, those bad old Nazis . . . the Southern Babdist variety.
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 01:40 am
@brianjakub,
The challenge to evolutionism doctrine still stands regarding morality. Who is king and dictates right from wrong. And how do we, being modified pond scum/bacteria even know how to treat each other?
All this advice on this thread coming from such creatures.

I’ve never met a true atheist/evolutionist, they are always drawing their morality from absolute truths grounded in Christ, like all other false teachings/religions.
brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 08:48 am
@farmerman,
Catholics and Christians are constantly trying to shoe horn some non scientific perverted view human beings into their belief system(like Judge Jones in Dover). It always leads to a disaster that is measured in lost human lives.

If it is accepted by everyone that all humans are intelligent beings capable of understanding and loving God (which means they are not smart animals whose behaviors are dictated by their feelings because love is a choice one makes to sacrifice oneself for another, it is not just a feeling) then all humans from the moment of conception to natural death will be treated with the proper respect.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 10:09 am
@brianjakub,
I must have missed that memo.
brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 10:30 am
@farmerman,
I suspect you didn't. You chose not to believe it. But if you didn't get it Leadfoot and I both forwarded it to you. Now you just have to go through a similar learning process that we did so you can come to understand it or, take it on faith that we are correct because, you have accepted we are intelligent men with good character.

I prefer doing the work and understanding the system from (quantum mechanics to entropic gravity and relativity) and from (chemistry to bio genetics) and through forensics.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 10:47 am
There are no limits to the depths of self-deception.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 10:52 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
You don't understand the first thing about other people's beliefs. You are a troll that provides no fact or reality. Your use of the words evolution and morality in the same sentence proves how ignorant you are. Evolution is nature. Morality is a manmade concept.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 12:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Morality is a man-made concept? Can you expand on this?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 12:48 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
I doubt he’d be willing.
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brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 12:50 pm
@Setanta,
When you understand entropic gravity and how it shows gravity is the result of variations in the spatial density of the Higgs field caused by matter come and talk to me about this self deception. If you already understand lets begin now.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 01:04 pm
@brianjakub,
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take it on faith that we are correct because, you have accepted we are intelligent men with good character.
when did I do this. What I think you really heard me say was that "I cannot accept that you two are just hopelessly obtuse"

See, no matter how you toss your word salads, I believe that there must be a brain there somewhere.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2018 01:09 pm
@brianjakub,
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I prefer doing the work and understanding the system from (quantum mechanics to entropic gravity and relativity) and from (chemistry to bio genetics) and through forensics.



Your knowledge of chemistry and "bio genetics "(what other kind is there?), IMHO is rather rudimentary (Many have said that reading and spouting Wikipedia should not confused with real education.
 

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