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@Joe Nation,

What's smaller? Mr. Green

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@Joe Nation,

But "dark matter" and "dark energy" are stuff as well. They are also figments of your imagination suitable, I assume, for perplexing the ladies in whose wake you lope along on your runs.

Perplexed females being very easy meat.

What's "light matter" and "light energy"? An un-perplexed lady will set you right on those.

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@Joe Nation,

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So, the entire visible Universe could disappear in the next few minutes and the Universe wouldn't even notice.

That's a pretty good excuse I must admit for getting it over quick in legover situations.

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@cicerone imposter,

We refuse to accept evolution, but we don't have any other natural explanations, so we logically deduce that the only remaining possibility is GOD".

I think they do accept evolution but not the teaching of it to school-kids because doing so involves unnecessary risks.

The above statement is totally correct and below is the way I would see it as well.

We refuse to accept your Gods, but we don't have any other natural explanations, so we logically deduce that the only remaining possibility is science .

I think they do accept God's but not the teaching of it to school-kids because doing so involves unnecessary risks.

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@tenderfoot,

I'm having difficulty understanding what you're trying to say. What risks are you talking about?

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@tenderfoot,

That would only be true if atheism was the status quo and the sort of things that the religious refer to as unnecessary risks were institutionalised and accepted as normal and approved. Such as eugenics, Pavlovian, pharmceutical and surgical mind culture and separate barracks for the sexes in population centres. Plus nationalisation of production, distribution and exchange managed by a Party which is surrounded by security with the roads being cleared when the top brass wishes to be driven somewhere like Mr Putin's recent progress to his inauguration.

It's a choice between two sorts of unnecessary risk in two different situations and anti-IDers are proof that the God risk is not all that severe whereas in North Korea it is a serious criminal offence being found with a Bible and Prof Dawkins can go on TV and make speeches.

The anti-IDers would be in charge. That would be jolly I should think. A real bundle of laughs. Imagine talking about your party elite as you are free to do about the religious elites. Side-splitting might become literal.

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@tenderfoot,

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We refuse to accept your Gods, but we don't have any other natural explanations,

That phrase makes no sese. Youve been listening to spendi too much. He has that effect on the unskilled mind. You must realize that most of what he says is fluff and feathers, while the remaining 3% is boast.

Get rest, eat a good breakfast, take a walk and then come back, youll be amazed how quickly you catch on

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@spendius,

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Such as eugenics, Pavlovian, pharmceutical and surgical mind culture and separate barracks for the sexes in population centres.

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Plus nationalisation of production, distribution and exchange managed by a Party which is surrounded by security with the roads being cleared when the top brass wishes to be driven somewhere like Mr Putin's recent progress to his inauguration.

To make a minor point. Ive clipped two, phrases from spendis last post. He claims that these two phrases are sentences, since hes punctuated them as such.

WHen read critically, these phrases accomplish only one thing.

They demonstrate quite effectively that spendi's world consists of brief periods of sobriety connected by long periods of gurgling at passing traffic. He does this all from his urine stained roost near the edge of the curb.

I think that not even spendi could explain what the hell he was trying to say above. He forgets so quickly when hes coming to.

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@farmerman,

What else can be caught onto amazingly quickly by resting, eating a good breakfast, going for a walk and coming back. It sounds like a new educational tool which will save a fortune.

What's a good breakfast? What happens if tf goes for a walk and doesn't come back? Did you feel the need to remind her to come back? That's unskilled mind stuff for real.

I notice you have resisted commenting on the Frank Harris quote I posted for your consideration. Is mentioning social consequences and their cause censored on here or are you personally scared of doing? I can't say I blame you.

But it is a bit ungallant to say that tf has an unskilled mind. Especially in a post that only has daft assertions for a foundation.

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@farmerman,

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To make a minor point.

When do you ever make any other sort of point. All points which have social consequences on Ignore are not just minor. They are irrelevant.

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@spendius,

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Frank Harris quote I posted for your consideration.

I commented about his writing several months ago, you just dont even recall that you bring up Harris every few weeks .

Short term memory problems there spendi?

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@spendius,

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When do you ever make any other sort of point.

Nice try at attempting to pass over your above nonsense phrases. I understand when you embarass yourself, youd rather just try to have us avert our eyes from your gibberish.

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@spendius,

Many things have social consequences spendi. To argue that lack of religion has a larger social consequence than having religion is to ignore the history of humanity.

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@parados,

I didn't say a "larger" social consequence in relation to either position. A different social consequence is what I mean. Obviously religion has a massive social consequence. As does atheism.

There's a need to make a choice. Pretending there are no social consequences to either choice is cheating, devious and cowardly.

Promoting atheism must envisage and welcome both Houses of Congress and the Administration being atheist. And the population.

If that is what you want to promote you make sense. If it is not what you want to promote you don't make sense.

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@spendius,

What's your choice para? In between is wishy-washy, mindless dithering. Like a Girl Guide caught between a rope over a raging torrent and lions roaring in the bushes behind her.

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spendis latest affectation toward the "profound" has resulted in his piling up run on AND incomplete sentences that most often are seseless scribbles.
I hope that he, at least, will return to sentences with objects AND verbs.

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@spendius,

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I didn't say a "larger" social consequence in relation to either position. A different social consequence is what I mean

Define different. Humans are humans. There are good and bad ones no matter what the religion or lack thereof.

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Promoting atheism must envisage and welcome both Houses of Congress and the Administration being atheist. And the population.

When did I promote atheism. You have the same problem the Taliban does in that you think anyone that doesn't proscribe to your particular beliefs must be an aethiest.

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There's a need to make a choice. Pretending there are no social consequences to either choice is cheating, devious and cowardly.

Why does there need to be a choice? Are you arguing that they can't coexist? Why can't we have multiple religions and atheism? The problems occur when religion decides it has the truth and damn the reality.

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@parados,

parados, Good post, but I'm afraid you are wasting your time trying to discuss common sense and logic to spendi. I've saved hours of reading his crap by putting him on Ignore, because I know essentially what he's going to say before he says it - somewhat like JTT - who never changes their message.

Save yourself some grief - but I know some get entertainment from hearing a broken record.

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@parados,

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Define different.

Politicians responding to a disgusted public in Christian countries calling for action in Syria or threatening retribution later and the politicians in atheist countries vetoing any action and one might imagine restricting reporting of the events of that desperate situation.

Is that a sufficient difference?

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Humans are humans. There are good and bad ones no matter what the religion or lack thereof.

One can demonstrate the truth of that by comparing Hitler to Mother Theresa.

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When did I promote atheism. You have the same problem the Taliban does in that you think anyone that doesn't proscribe to your particular beliefs must be an aethiest.

I apologise in that case.

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Why does there need to be a choice? Are you arguing that they can't coexist? Why can't we have multiple religions and atheism? The problems occur when religion decides it has the truth and damn the reality.

They are co-existing now but teaching evolution in schools has a direction towards atheism as everybody knows.

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The problems occur when religion decides it has the truth and damn the reality.

Which reality? How about the reality of social organisation?

Take ci's advice. You might as well not read my posts if you can't understand them and it will save us both wasting our time.

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@farmerman,

It was me who voted your last post up fm.

It's so idiotic it deserves recognition. One hand clapping.

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