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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 10:36 am
@wandeljw,
Amarillo Globe-News is owned by Morris Communications of Augusta, Georgia which is--

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a privately held media company with diversified holdings that include newspaper and magazine publishing, outdoor advertising, radio broadcasting, book publishing and distribution, visitor publications and online services. Newspapers are the foundation and core business of the company owned by the Morris family since 1945. Today the Georgia-based enterprise reaches across the nation, has holdings in Europe and employs 6,000 people.


That is a sufficient explanation for the publication of such a farrago of non sequiturs, self-serving assertions and the loose use of such terms as " seven calender days" and "voice of reason". We are already fully appraised of where such companies stand on these matters and providing us with another version can only be considered as spamming.

The article shows not the slightest sign of ideological balance or of any ideas how schools can be organised without political inputs of the first rank.

How on earth SBOE members can possibly not seek to infuse public education policy with their own world view is outside the frame of reference of any intelligent person and the members of the Board who have denied doing so, if it is true they have and Mr Kanelis has not made that up, they are thereby deemed unfit for office. It is not "virtually impossible" for board members to keep politics out of whatever decisions they make. It is actually impossible. A lot of mental furniture is on display with the use of "virtually" but I will refrain from exposing it because not only do I not have the time but also because it is most unseemly suggesting, as it does, that the readers are all stupid and ignorant as ci. recently asserted them to be in his dire campaign to win minds and influence people.

And it would constitute a total disqualification from office for any Board member, of whatever side, to say that they didn't put the children's interests first. So such a statement regarding anybody is meaningless and on the same level as telling us that they have two legs and a nose. Padding, and wasted words prove to warn that he not busy being born is busy dieeeeeeeeeeiiiiing!
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 10:39 am
@edgarblythe,
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It's a lonely task, to be a liberal in Texas.


Do you never wonder why that is ed?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 10:46 am
@spendius,
No. I know already.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 10:50 am
@edgarblythe,
And what are your conclusions then? What do you think is the reason for your plaintive liberal wail? I am reasonably interested in your explanation. How do we know that you know already otherwise?
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 10:53 am
@edgarblythe,
Are you seriously saying ed that you have never paused to wonder why the lonely liberal voice in Texas is crying in the wilderness?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 11:51 am
@spendius,
Differing regions even within a single nation have cultural predjudices that distinguish them from other regions. A great part of it has to do with the history of the people, as they settled the land (wrenched it away from the Natives and the Mexicans, actually, in the case in point) and did something with it. A great part of it has to do with the culture they brought with them. There are other factors that one might dispute. There is an intimidation factor at work here, as well. The instant a moderate or liberal voice gets hinted at, the fundamentalists become like an up in arms swarm of Africanized honey bees. I have seen many a moderate back down and shut up, when these forces are at work. I myself have backed down. I recall a time when whiskers were frowned upon, here. I came in from the east coast, wearing a great beard. So many fundamentalists stared hard at me, as if wanting a chance to take me down, I gave in and shaved (Now, the same ones that condemned my whiskers are wearing the same look). These people harbor a notion that there is no social contract, that we all are on our own. Even when banding together to force social behaviors on others, they cling to that belief.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 12:10 pm
@edgarblythe,
Why not move back east then? I would have been gone in a day if my beard risked me being "taken down". I wouldn't have shaved.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 12:14 pm
@spendius,
I was born in Texas. It's as good a place to live as any, so long as you don't get into arguments with fundamentalists.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 12:20 pm
@spendius,
How is the moral evolution going in your part of the world? Is the church going to be able to hang in there? Are they going to expel the money changers?

Here is a quick update of how it is going in the USA!

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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 04:47 pm
@edgarblythe,
As long as a governor like PErry is around, there will always be plenty of right wing Dominionists who want the positions on the ed board.

Interpretation of science isnt open to a vote of the mob of Fundamentalists. Im interested in a possibility that would present itself IF and ONLY IF the Fundamentalist Christians gain a majority. What do they do next?? They can posture all they want but the Constitution clearly states the free expression and the establishment strictures and freedoms.
The Supreme Court and the 3rd FEd district court have each defined "SCientific Creationism" and "Intelligent Design" and have shut down several statelaws that required an "equal time" to Creationism. SO where do they go??

The only ******* around they can do (In my mind) is to get some bogus textbook that teaches evolution AND menations Creationism or ID. I suppose that a separate court case regarding textbooks purchased by state authority must comply with the Constitution also.

Itll be interesting esppecially since PErry has imploded so he will probably be a TExan for a while longer
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 06:49 pm
I was hoping he would get the nomination and resign as governor. Razz
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 06:53 pm
@edgarblythe,
You want someone like that to lead us all? Shocked
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2011 05:23 am
@reasoning logic,
I think ed thinks that Mr Obama will piss all over Mr Perry and he's hoping Mr Perry has a chance of that so that he's gone from Texas. I can't imagine ed wanting a President Perry. It looks like Romney to me.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2011 12:13 pm
The UK House of Commons will debate e-petitions if they get at least 100,000 signatures. The e-petition below has currently reached 15,000 signatures:
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Creationism and ‘intelligent design’ are not scientific theories, but they are portrayed as scientific theories by some religious fundamentalists who attempt to have their views promoted in publicly-funded schools. At the same time, an understanding of evolution is central to understanding all aspects of biology. Currently, the study of evolution does not feature explicitly in the National Curriculum until year 10 (ages 14-15). Free Schools and Academies are not obliged to teach the National Curriculum and so are under no obligation to teach about evolution at all. We petition the Government to make clear that creationism and ‘intelligent design’ are not scientific theories and to prevent them from being taught as such in publicly-funded schools, including in ‘faith’ schools, religious Academies and religious Free Schools. At the same time, we want the Government to make the teaching of evolution in mandatory in all publicly-funded schools, at both primary and secondary level.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2011 02:54 pm
@wandeljw,
Not a chance of any changes arising out of that. The vote won't be "whipped".
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2011 05:51 am
@spendius,
I was wondering whether or not our panel of evolution proponents have any intellectual thoughts on the expression "missionary position". It does imply that there was something special or even unique in the Christian penetration of the non-Christian world.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2011 05:59 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

You want someone like that to lead us all? Shocked

It is my assumption that the national electorate will not vote for this person. Meaning, Perry would become a non official, in my scenario.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2011 06:36 am
No. , spendius, not "special" or "unique" at all. Victorian missionaries went out to convert the "heathen" and claimed, in their "wisdom", that that was the only sexual position approved by god, and anything else was sinful. The natives, not surprisingly, thought they were loonies. It's pejorative on the missionaries.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2011 07:08 am
@MontereyJack,
In which case, and thanks for jumping into the snare, evolutionists should eschew the procedure and proceed in the manner evolution so obviously has selected and which I have been informed by those in the only position to know is much preferred by our females for a variety of reasons.

Perhaps the professor of philosophy at Southeastern Louisiana University in Hammond, will settle the matter for us.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2011 04:01 pm
@MontereyJack,
This is rally comical! spendi needs to spend time in Khajuraho for about three years to study all the temples there.
 

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