Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

The continuity of all life is just a series of rolling bets. "Nature bats last"

Science of our sort, not your sort ci., originates from believing the Bible. Name me any other science of efficient, dymamic space in infinite extension, to which you owe most of your living arrangements, which originates from anything else.

It's just a straw man of your's, constructed with hindsight, that our science would just have "evolved" as a chance happening. As I have already told you Jesus was the first of our scientists. The individual not as a thing in itself in the here and now but as a field of force infinitely extensible. The religion of function. y=fx. You as a function of Jesus. You as a function of something else does not bear thinking about.

You're just trying to justify your objections to Christian sexual morality and six guesses of the cause would produce your original motive. Your lines are given you by those who lead your claque. Had the Pope remained in charge I like to think we might have kept the secrets to ourselves. But the old fashioned Wikileaks knew better eh? Based on the illusion of science just having evolved by random chance as your lot say everything does. And putting on Ignore the real centre of the field of force which now rules the world and actually, and it's hard to credit, belittling it in the most obnoxious terms.

Even your fine wines were evolved in monastic settings. I bet you think they "just spontaneously happened" when you're being shown the list by an underpaid waiter. In a nice leather bound folder, Made in Bangladesh, with gold leaf figures on the front, not real gold, not at these prices, glitter gold, to make you feel the exact opposite of what a Christian feels when contemplating Jesus on the Cross.

Now ci. Which of those two feelings do you think it best to encourage? There is a natural limit to the hangdogerry despair of the Christian which prevents it getting out of hand. It's a temporary feeling which the beauties of nature standing in Her finest Sunday Best in the pew in front soon overcomes. But the opposite, when the waiter bows and calls you Sir, a wanker like you, feeds on itself and the only known limit is a head exploding.

Like I think Cameron's and Sarkosy's have done. Just think if the Russians were slaughtering Chechens eh? We would be in the ****.

We don't need eye-witnesses. We've got the produce. Who cares that it was hearsay? What isn't? And as for myths--it's a myth that scientists left to themselves could run a whelk laboratory.

MJA--you will have to get used to ci. addressing you in this way--



He's been doing that to me for 7 years. And probably to a lot of people he meets on his holidays. Which are frequent. One can see why too. He's not like anything in evolution. In evolution the positive adaptations are passed on to the offspring. The American way is to keep them all for itself, take out a future's option on the offspring and let them do what they will with the result.

It's his standard mantra. I don't know anything he insists.

Take no notice. The Bible was the Big Bang. Who ever looked for the Big Bang who had no Bible?

spendi, You don't even understand evolution; all surviving biology is not always positive for other living things.

Dammit Farmerman - that was profound. Best I can do right now is link to Heisenberg lecturing (in German, you speak it, right?) in 1967, saying the old battle between Democritus and Plato has been decisively won by Plato. Perfect, abstract probabilistic forms lie at the heart of our universe - unknowable....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwM47nStkOE

Do you have an explanation of why that is ci.?

These thumbs up and down are an objective measure of the effect of the American educational system on people who go on internet debating sites when they are unable to go in pubs. Possibly from a fairly narrow segment of the income distribution spectrum.

Don't have to; it's a fact of life. Something so common, you fail to see it.

Let's ask fm to arbitrate the matter shall we. I was wondering how survivors could survive negative aspects what with evolution being so cruel and unforgiving.

spendi, Your education on the subject of evolution is lacking basic info; many species of fauna and flora are now gone from this earth because of the negative aspects of nature/earth.

When one has the opposite of logic {faith} Why would one even wonder? LOL

There's a Leonard Cohen song with the line, "I'm the little Jew who wrote the Bible."

You know, a man who has been dead for 2,000 surely suits your definition of "the latest." Keep up the good work!

I've been told that cows recognize their names.

MAybe he was speaking about that new flick about the little alien dude named PAUL. Spurt practices word economy so that he doesnt sound like a fool(more than he does)

The accuracy of science is of a very high order. For example, it has put more than a dozen men on the moon, and brought them safely home.

Funny you should mention that song Pom. Each time I hear it- and I hear it a lot because I have it on my mp3 player that I use in my car- I think, 'This is what spendius envisions the world becoming if the tempering effect of religion/the church is abolished and the predominant ethos is atheistic':

"The Future"
by: Leonard Cohen

Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it's lonely here,
there's no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby,
that's an order!
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I've seen the future, brother:
it is murder.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant

You don't know me from the wind
you never will, you never did
I'm the little jew
who wrote the Bible
I've seen the nations rise and fall
I've heard their stories, heard them all
but love's the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
to say it clear, to say it cold:
It's over, it ain't going
any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
you feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

There'll be the breaking of the ancient
western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There'll be phantoms
There'll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing
You'll see a woman
hanging upside down
her features covered by her fallen gown
and all the lousy little poets
coming round
tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson
and the white man dancin'

Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St Paul
Give me Christ
or give me Hiroshima
Destroy another fetus now
We don't like children anyhow
I've seen the future, baby:
it is murder

I know for sure that my dog knows her name.
(That's not part of the song - that's in response to your statement that some cows know their names).

And now we are certain the moon is not made of cheese.
Way to go science!!!

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And you think that having an imaginary friend is a better achievement?

Oh, come on!

I don't have any imaginary friends, do you Francis?

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