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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 11:10 am
@wandeljw,
It's an explanation of why scientists and their awestruck lickspittals and lackeys, who know no science themselves, should take over the running of the country and change the whole course of the nation into the communist direction where power alone controls everything.

It seeks to give credibilty to statements such as "needed to be repeated", as dictats, in the face of a school board in a high flying district which, having heard arguments from members of the community, decided to keep Schaefer on the taxpayer-funded payroll. Presumably because he's a great teacher and an asset to the educational system.

And a school board which doesn't listen to blurts of the Orwellian type " Anti-ID good, ID bad" which offer no further justification.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 11:13 am
MJA wrote:
@wandeljw,

Evolution is not creation?
Then what is it?


I answered that.
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MJA
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 11:18 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

The subject is origin, not evolution. You're telling us what we already know about evolution. Your twist that evolution is creation is not news to anybody.





"Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution"
Well that is the title of the thread!
And evolution is creation or simply the theoretical origin of everything.
Right?

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 11:22 am
@MJA,
Of coarse; but what you are trying to imply is that creationism (religious belief) is the basis of evolution. Doesn't work that way. Do you understand simple logic?

Science has proven evolution; creationism originates from believing the bible, a fictional book written by many much after (about 100 years) of the so-called savior. No eye-witness event; just hearsay; most from mythology.
MJA
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 11:28 am
@cicerone imposter,
Logically speaking,
A theory is a theory and the basis of evolution is creation.
Evolution is a creation theory and nothing more.
I would call it creationism, wouldn't you?
The Big Bang theory is most certainly too.

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 11:32 am
@MJA,
You are going into an area about theory as if this was not already discussed ad nauseum. It's because you have no understanding what science is, and believe in fairy tales dictated by your comic book called the bible.

Put another way, please show us proof of a) world flood, b) virgin birth, c) all the miracles described in your comic book, d) the earth is 7,000 years old, and e) god exists.
MJA
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 11:45 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

You are going into an area about theory as if this was not already discussed ad nauseum. It's because you have no understanding what science is, and believe in fairy tales dictated by your comic book called the bible.


To believe in science or religion,
Ye must have faith.
I have none of that,
Only the truth,

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As far as God existing, all I can tell you truthfully is I do.
And think God is simply another name for everything which we are all an equal part of, aren't you.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 11:55 am
@MJA,
You are conflicted in your own statements. Try to figure out why. You need to study logic.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 11:56 am
@MJA,
Scientific explanations require understanding, not faith.
MJA
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:06 pm
@wandeljw,
wandeljw wrote:

Scientific explanations require understanding, not faith.


Why does science call its theories theories?
Why not simply the truth?
Is for example: The big bang theory much like the evolution theory which is much like the creation theory a belief, a theory, a faith, an understanding or simply true or untrue?

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:08 pm
@MJA,
It's because you have no concept of evidence and facts; it's the very fundamental understanding and foundation of what science is.
MJA
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What is science but a measured belief in ideas?
I find great flaws in that, flaws in measure, beliefs, theories, science, religion, and ideas, don't you?

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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:16 pm
@MJA,
Your definition of science is convenient to your superstition, but it is inaccurate.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:16 pm
@MJA,
then dont trust your toaster.
MJA
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:18 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

then dont trust your toaster.


I don't!
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MJA
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:31 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Your definition of science is convenient to your superstition, but it is inaccurate.


What is the accuracy of science but quantum mechanical or probable or uncertain at best?
Dice anyone?

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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:36 pm
@MJA,
Would you bet on something witha 99% return frequency? How about 95%. Just wondering?
MJA
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:37 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Would you bet on something witha 99% return frequency? How about 95%. Just wondering?



Good ?

The best bet is not to bet at all!

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:50 pm
@MJA,
Evidently, you don't even understand the idea of chance in rolling the dice, and you talk about faith and science as being on the same scale. Have you ever studied statistics? Do you understand anything about the bell curve and how that applies to scientific findings?

How about fact finding in the bible?
MJA
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2011 12:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Evidently, you don't even understand the idea of chance in rolling the dice, ...


Einstein didn't either.
God doesn'y play dice, do you?

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