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@plainoldme,

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Ignoring people eliminates stress for the one doing the ignoring.

That stress is the ego feeling threatened by the realisation that one is not that superior after all.

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You are a bellicose person.

I have learnt well here.

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Ignoring someone like you is nicer than engaging you, both for you and the person choosing to ignore you.

This isnt a birthday party invitation list. If you dont want to debate, what are you doing here ?

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@farmerman,

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Beating ones head against a wall expecting a different outcome each time may be what Australians respect, but in my neck of the woods, we know that hitchin a dray horse to a sulky is gonna give you a bad ride

You cant get over Australians can you ? Did you expect all 300 million USAians to be worshipped ? For what ? How many posts do you raise nationality ? Chip on your shoulder ? Feelings of insecurity and xenophobia ?

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@Ionus,

I am at a loss where did you find this quote?

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totally egalitarian socio-economic life style

I hear a lot of rubbish about life in a tribal society. The truth is different to that portrayed. When they have a celebration, they dont just rush in to get the best bits first. There is a pecking order. The organiser distributes the food, and people are placed in their order of importance to the organiser. If you dont like your mother in law then she is down the end of the line and gets the arsehole and hoofs. You couldnt get a more structured society. It prevents fights amongst those thinking they are equal.

Many westerners think of it as lovely, with harmony and peace......children die at a great rate, any violence is dealt with by greater violence, poor weather means death in large numbers......Everyone knows everything about everyone else, there is no privacy.

There is no totally egalitarian life style any where.

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@Ionus,

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How many posts do you raise nationality ? Chip on your shoulder ? Feelings of insecurity and xenophobia ?

I never really realized that when I talk to an AUtralian and refer to that person as an Australian that the reference constituites some sort of nationality slur. I believe its you who has some sort of inferiority complex, not I.

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@spendius,

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The company of the like-minded is cosy and comforting.

A lot of people are here for confirmation of their biased opinion, not to debate . That is why they loudly trumpet who they have on ignore . It is socialising with those of similar view points by ostracising anyone different. They deny being nazis because they havent killed anyone yet and to them nothing bad ever came from being elitist . Their lives are based on the justification of elitism, so one more example doesnt register with them for what it is and what it says about them.

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@cicerone imposter,

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farmerman, You really do have that backwards; spendi is a joke, and most pe0ple see him as the pub character that he is. Nobody takes spendi seriously most of the time.

Iexcept spendi. I think youve pissed him off.

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@Ionus,

Are you like the atheist that you speak of all the time? Are we not all left, right and center or do you see a need to divide us all? Sure we do not see all things the same way but from my observation most all of us are socialist and conservative all in one. just to different degrees!

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@spendius,

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Were there any young female research assistants on hand for when cracking open nodules got tiresome and they retired to the tents.

The opportunity to teach young females that biology is all about having the right attitude to sex and power should never be bypassed by aging men with papers to mark and who have to select "career building" associates.

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@reasoning logic,

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totally egalitarian socio-economic life style

That was the phrase used in your video ref to describe hunter-gatherers.

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@Ionus,

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A lot of people are here for confirmation of their biased opinion, not to debate .

when you are able to debate. let me know. It appears that your thoughts havent changed anything Ive stated. Ive handled you and your English friend spendi as a couple of whiners who really want to be involved in debate of something important to USers , but alas, you both are ill equipped and unarmed. Thats why the insult of the previous post is the first thing out of your keyboards.
You both are quite predictable aqnd boring.
If you want to debate evolution education in the US, Im all ears. If you want to insult, why not frequent the thread specifically designed for that purpose. Maybe youll get it out of your system.

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@farmerman,

Why do you mention it ? I am never really conscious of nationality but rather the individual. You however, mention it a lot. So does rocky. It is on your mind isnt it ? There is no known cure for xenophobia. Try to leave nationality out of it, it just makes you look more of a nazi than bragging about who you have on ignore already does.

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@reasoning logic,

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Are you like the atheist that you speak of all the time? Are we not all left, right and center or do you see a need to divide us all?

"...If you cut us, do we not bleed, if you tickle us, do we not laugh?..."

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@reasoning logic,

When I am with religious people I argue that the history of religion does not justify a believe that the Bible is the literal word of God. When I am with atheists I argue their lack of engagement with religious people and their sneering is counter productive. I see fundamentalists on both sides who want to burn the world if people dont share their beliefs.

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@Ionus,

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There is no known cure for xenophobia. Try to leave nationality out of it, it just makes you look more of a nazi than bragging about who you have on ignore already does.

There you go to extremes again. Now you accuse me of being a xenophobe becasue Ive addressed you as an Australian. Ive done similarly with other nationalities , and Ive made jokes to dadpad about how uncomfortable it must be to stand upside down . I hope I havent insulted him cause hes a good dude. However, I dont ever recall posting these vast (or maybe it was half-vast) generalities about Americans and how we need to do something or other. I somehow dont get all insulted and start whining about it. May I suggest that youre not able to compose an argument or insult without reaching for these extreme characterizations. What may work for "Stand up comedy", usually doesnt work in debate. I just dont take you seriously when you make up these extreme POVs about xenophobia being a driver in my cross cultural references.
Why dont you just call me a douche bag, that would at least make half sense.

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@farmerman,

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when you are able to debate. let me know......Ive handled you and your English friend spendi.....you both are ill equipped and unarmed. You both are quite predictable aqnd boring.

Of course arrogance and self proclaimed victory are an important part of ignoring people. Nazis could justify their actions, too. It all starts with not talking.

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thats why the insult of the previous post is the first thing out of your keyboards.

?????

Your ability then to refrain and not join us in our insults is truly remarkable, given the first quote above.

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a couple of whiners who really want to be involved in debate of something important to USers......If you want to debate evolution education in the US

Perhaps you can point out where in the title it says the debate is about and for USA only ? Or is this another example of your xenophobia and racism ?

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@farmerman,

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There you go to extremes again.

I have explained that the first step to being a nazis (or any other name) is as easy as ignoring someone but it is a slippery slope. I have read you tell someone you wish them dead. Would a gas oven be suitable for the purpose ?

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Now you accuse me of being a xenophobe becasue Ive addressed you as an Australian. Ive done similarly with other nationalities , and Ive made jokes to dadpad about how uncomfortable it must be to stand upside down .

How do you even think of people as being a nationality of one type or another like that ? Why does it come into your mind ? It never occurs to me.

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I just dont take you seriously when you make up these extreme POVs about xenophobia being a driver in my cross cultural references.

But I do think you have a chip on your shoulder and occassionally it comes to the fore. Is it really an extreme to suggest an USA citizen can be xenophobic ?

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Why dont you just call me a douche bag, that would at least make half sense.

Because I dont think of you as one.

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@Ionus,

Wow!!! Ionus I am very impressed that you took the time to critically think about what I have shared with you because as I see it most people do not!

I also think that you are correct in your analysis! I am not for sure why the author put it that way maybe he was just being nice but anyways I do think you are correct. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to respond because this is how I learn different point of views!

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@Ionus,

Ionus wrote:

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when you are able to debate. let me know......Ive handled you and your English friend spendi.....you both are ill equipped and unarmed. You both are quite predictable aqnd boring.
Of course arrogance and self proclaimed victory are an important part of ignoring people. Nazis could justify their actions, too. It all starts with not talking.

Ordnung!! {Sorry Wandel, I know it's your thread but you're a laid-back type and this thread is getting too brutal for a Sunday evening.}

Ionus - aren't you mixing things up somewhat? "Not talking" was never a Nazi tactic - the opposite was true, they broadcast propaganda 24/7. Then - and I'm no assiduous reader of PlainOld's posts, au contraire - how can you tell her she's getting frozen out of the conversation? That means "ignored".

Lastly - and to the point: what's the story with your Devonian fishes in your deserts? Is all we hear about their sex lives true? Spendi will be so jealous Smile

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@Ionus,

Could you elaborate on this quote?

The organiser distributes the food, and people are placed in their order of importance to the organiser. If you dont like your mother in law then she is down the end of the line and gets the arsehole and hoofs. You couldnt get a more structured society. It prevents fights amongst those thinking they are equal.

Not that I disagree with it as being a reality but it is this part of the quote that I think causes murder and so forth among humans! your quote: { You couldnt get a more structured society.}

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@Ionus,

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I have explained that the first step to being a nazis (or any other name) is as easy as ignoring someone but it is a slippery slope. I have read you tell someone you wish them dead.

I reject your thesis on this. Its inane and full of holes that dont make it worth considering.\

Ive never wished someone on this board dead. I may have speculted on the quickest way to take out bin Laden but I , or I may have invoked the mafia curse that "You are dead to me". Thats an insult that doesnt translate into Oz perhaps.Or just Maybe youre just speaking out your other orifice again

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Why does it come into your mind ? It never occurs to me.

Thats because Im creative, you are not. What passes for a sense of humor for you, is quite predictable and is often lame.

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Is it really an extreme to suggest an USA citizen can be xenophobic ?

Now according to Ionus logic thats a xenophobic statement isnt it? You and spendi just went on a page or so back giving "lessons" to another about how Americans are unable to do this or that and some other crap. Its not xenophobia on your part, just pure ignorance, sorta like our Rush Limbaugh gets all insulted at a liberal speaking out but all day, his program is a misrepresentation of how liberals think. I believe that you fit that mold of "Jubilation T Cornpone" who would "NEVAH stoop as low as my honred debate opponent who engages in pedophilia as a hobby"
As far as your own obsession with NAzis, Id let it rest, we dont need any more attempts at the Ionus history books. Ive already laughed my way through reading your "civil War thoughts" and "Midway dumb luck"
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