Social evolution in egypt?
Do you find this statement to be true?
Disobedience in the eyes of anyone who has read history, Is man's original virtue.
It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifdlUDwW6Mc
@reasoning logic,
Wasn't Mubarak a result of social evolution?
@spendius,
I am not sure Spendius but I would think that it is safe to say that he is now!
@reasoning logic,
Quote:It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made.
Disobedience to which laws and rebellion against what rules?
Put some beef into your abstractions.
I suppose Jesus is your hero then?
@reasoning logic,
Quote: It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made
SO true.
Sorta like the "Declaration of Independence" refuted laws of the Crown.
@farmerman,
How about refuting the laws of rape fm on the Darwinian grounds that too many sub-standard males are reproducing thanks to monogamy and genteel manners?
You're picking a narrow field of play to support what was a general principle and America has only been seen as a success by some.
The refutation of the laws of cricket and English football has left you playing amongst yourselves. The refutation of the laws of unsupported assertions has left you mired in the middle-east.
@spendius,
Why would atheists tolerate anyone who cant survive without help ? Feeding the starving, health care, distribution of wealth, social safety nets.....all anti-atheistic plots set up by the religious fundamentalists to undermine evolution.
@farmerman,
Its amusing how a few people cannot hold religious beliefs and science in two separate hands.
@farmerman,
You're talking to yourself again....
@farmerman,
Quote:Its amusing how a few people cannot hold religious beliefs and science in two separate hands.
That depends on what the beliefs are.
Odd how you failed to respond to my post about the belief you hold, as I do, that the distortions of reality involved in science are worth the contortions necessary. You can't hold the belief that the distortions of reality involved in religion are worthwhile and the complete fool you make of yourself as a result are very amusing.
@Ionus,
Quote:Why would atheists tolerate anyone who cant survive without help ?
Calvinists belong to the group who would refuse to support the people you describe.
Actually, so do parents.
@plainoldme,
Quote: Why would atheists tolerate anyone who cant survive without help ?
I dont presume to know what "anyone" believes . And I dont really give a damn. Sounds like the post is trying to pick a fight and nobody is rising to the bait.
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:Why would atheists tolerate anyone who cant survive without help?
Compassion and empathy, same as everyone else.
Whew . . . it sinks around here . . . did someone leave a bucket of chum sitting around?
@Setanta,
we were saving a snack for you.
@rosborne979,
Quote: Quote:Why would atheists tolerate anyone who cant survive without help?
Compassion and empathy, same as everyone else.
Doesnt show much faith in evolution does it if people firmly believe evolution is right but then flaunt it at the cost of our survival as a species.
@Setanta,
Quote:Whew . . . it sinks around here . . . did someone leave a bucket of chum sitting around?
I dont know where you live but my first guess would be your old man nappy is full.
@Ionus,
Quote: Doesnt show much faith in evolution does it if people firmly believe evolution is right but then flaunt it at the cost of our survival as a species.
I know Im gonna regret this but whaaaaat?
by Eyder Peralta
A survey of 926 representative high school biology teachers found that only 28 percent of them consistently follow National Research Council guidelines that encourage them to present students with evidence of evolution.
60 percent of teachers skirt the contentious issue by, for example, telling students that they should learn about evolution because it will be on a state test, but they don't need to "believe in it."
The study was published in the journal Science. And the findings, come despite various federal court rulings that have said that teaching creationism violates the Constitution.
One case, pointed out by the study's authors, is Kitzmiller v. Dover:
Local citizens wanted their religious values validated by the science curriculum; prominent academics testified to the scientific consensus on evolution; and creationists lost decisively. Intelligent design was not science, held the court, but rather an effort to advance a religious view via public schools, a violation of the U.S. Constitution's Establishment Clause.
The New York Times reports that the reaction from some in academia was a resigned sigh:
Randy Moore, a professor of biology at the University of Minnesota, was unsurprised by the study's conclusions. "These kinds of data have been reported regionally, and in some cases nationally, for decades. Creationists are in the classroom, and it's not just the South," he said. "At least 25 percent of high school teachers in Minnesota explicitly teach creationism."
"Students are being cheated out of a rich science education," said Dr. [Eric] Plutzer, [one of the study's authors and] a professor of political science at Penn State University. "We think the 'cautious 60 percent' represent a group of educators who, if they were better trained in science in general and in evolution in particular, would be more confident in their ability to explain controversial topics to their students, to parents, and to school board members."
(Took this off NPR site)
@farmerman,
Quote:I know Im gonna regret this but whaaaaat?
You wont regret it FM, we have made our peace.
Doesnt it follow that if you believe evolution is the way life has survived then straying from its principles is endangering our species ?