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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 03:22 pm
@lmur,
Holy Hell, I remember that line. I copped it from a short story by Robert Benchley.
I thought that spendi would have been familiar with it.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 03:35 pm
@farmerman,
I am not sure that spendius recognized the satirical tone.

spendius wrote:
Relatively short periods of retraining is a synonym of retraining camps. Manchurian Candidate stuff he meant. Gulags. Conditioning Centre. Administrative Re-orientation. It's all the same. Ask a logistics manager.
High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 03:57 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

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If Spendius would rather live with the monster Devonian scorpion pictured above rather than with a tiny little spider taking refuge in his kitchen from the storm outside - let him
That was no scorpion, that was my Pterygotus. (little paleo humor)

Well I wish he would take his Silurian monster and go home - the critter went extinct in the Devonian, but I guess if you don't believe in evolution you may believe at least one of them is still around. Here's another chapter heading, from a 6thcentury BC Darwinian, Heraklitus:
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Πόλεμος πάντων μὲν πατήρ ἐστι, πάντων δὲ βασιλεύς, καὶ τοὺς μὲν θεοὺς ἔδειξε τοὺς δὲ ἀνθρώπους, τοὺς μὲν δούλους ἐποίησε τοὺς δὲ ἐλευθέρους.

War is father to all things, king of all, and some he designated as gods and others as men, some he made slaves and others free.
Fragment 53 http://philoctetes.free.fr/heraclitefraneng.htm
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:25 pm
@wandeljw,
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I am not sure that spendius recognized the satirical tone.


I think you mean ironic wande. One could hardly hold up religion to ridicule as a vice. Religion defines vice.

And if you read your own thread you would know that I read it in the spirit it was intended. I have said so twice in these recent exchanges on what is quite an important matter. What else could I do? You don't think I thought a chap like fm would think of fast-track Rehabilitation Centres, like the one Dr Benway had in Naked Lunch, for the religiously inclined. Although it did strike me that they were only to be for the recalcitrants who had resisted the "stick rattling in the bucket" trick or were not cowering in their hutches keeping their gobs shut.

But even amateur Freudians will tell you that there's a thought behind the jest. That's how you can tell misogynists. It's as good a test as litmus paper is for pH. No bullshit test. Objective.

He probably imagined supervising my retraining.

It will never be forgotten. Not the sentiment however coyly it was phrased.

And if Imur was not on my side he wouldn't have taken the trouble. He's a sporting man as I am. Hard, fair and to win.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:31 pm
@spendius,
spendi, Not to get off the subject of evolution, but since you are well read, I thought I'd pick your brain on this one.

It's about psychology and religion. I say there is no relationship between the two. I know there are volumes written on this subject, but what conclusions have they drawn from their psychological study of religion? People like Anus say it very basic and simple, but he has never offered the why's.

So, are you up to the task to provide some info on this subject?

Give it your best shot.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:31 pm
Good news. Mass demo of university teachers and under-grads in London today. Baying for money off the taxpayer so they can get pieces of paper to wave in our faces and charge us an arm and a leg for their ******* services.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:40 pm
@spendius,
College professors in the US make pretty good incomes, but it's their pensions that are excellent at public institutions if they worked for at least 35 to 40 years. What is interesting about college professors is their tendency to stay on the job longer, because they enjoy their jobs.

A business administration prof makes between $80,000 and $175,000.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 05:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It's a racket ci. This thread offers objective proof. There are so many people who have majored in this or that that there's no way their average IQ is above 101.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 05:34 pm
@High Seas,
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the critter went extinct in the Devonian,
Pterygoteans were a family of eurypterids (kinda like huge lobsters, chelicerae for sure, but only related to spiders by their thoracic segments. They went extinct in the PErmian and flourished from the SIlurian to the Mississippean and then began a decline (large spiracled body and a declining oxygen supply spelled their demise).

Apparently spendi only allows hyperbole for his own use. Hes a bit verbally selfish besides being a narcissist and mysoginist. I do recall that statement from Robert Benchley, and, if spendi was as widely read as he claims, so would have he.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 05:50 pm
More Good news--Dutch scientists have discovered that it is instinctive to laugh. Presumably our near DNA relations and anti-IDers are excluded. They never laugh on Creature Comforts or in anti-ID seminars. Prof Dawkins looks like he can't laugh.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:07 pm
@spendius,
spendi wrote:
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Presumably our near DNA relations and anti-IDers are excluded.


Please provide the textbook name, page number, and paragraph to show your above interpretation is correct. Truth is, you can't, because you're full of it. Your imagination is terrible, and lacks any credulity.
Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:16 pm
@High Seas,
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A critic of evolution, Berlinski is a Senior Fellow of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, a Seattle-based think-tank that is hub of the intelligent design movement. Berlinski shares the movement's disbelief in the evidence for evolution, but does not openly avow intelligent design and describes his relationship with the idea as: "warm but distant. It's the same attitude that I display in public toward my ex-wives."[5] Berlinski is a scathing critic of "Darwinism", yet, "Unlike his colleagues at the Discovery Institute, [he] refuses to theorize about the origin of life."[5]
(emphasis mine)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berlinski

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Clearly something extremely improbable has happened here on our planet, with the origin and development of life, and especially with the development of human consciousness and creativity.
(emphasis mine)http://www.math.utep.edu/Faculty/sewell/articles/mathint.html

I get a different impression.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I don't need Dutch scientists to prove a simple thing like that ci. I only read for laughs. I think it's neurotic to read for any other reason apart from money making. I don't challenge instincts. I leave that to water drinkers. The flavours used in water drinking prove what a pisser the activity actually is. They are to disguise the utter banality of water drinking.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:22 pm
@spendius,
And all breathing pure air does is leave one "braced".
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:38 pm
@Setanta,
What a lot of biased inflated garbage.

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The contention that atheists have slaughtered more people than religous people have done is an article of faith with many religious people
The exact opposite is true. It is an article of faith amongst self-proclaimed "scientists" that religions have killed more people than any other cause. Do you bother to read this thread or just post to it ?

Was WWII a religious war ? How about WWI ? Punic wars ? Alexander the Great's Wars ? The Gallic Wars ? Mongol Invasions ? Germanic/Slavic invasions of the Roman Empire ? The Cold War in Africa and Asia (Korea, Vietnam, Angola, etc) ? The first and Second Gulf Wars ? The War of Spanish Succession ? The Japanese invasion of Korea and the Ming intervention there ? The Wars of the Three Kingdoms ? The Wars of the Seven Kingdoms ? The replacement of the power of the Emperor with the Shogun and the subsequent Wars ? The Opium War ? China's take-over of Tibet ? The Franco-Prussian War ? The Boer War ? The Three British Afghan Wars ? The Napoleonic Wars ?

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Many religious people now automatically assume that people who accept evolutionary theory are atheists.
Personal opinion that is worthless even as toilet paper. The Catholic Church has supported evolution for decades now. Catch up.

Your whole post was to try to show off what limited knowledge you had googled. Read a book on it perhaps ?

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They can't really come up with any evidence
Oh......right.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Asking a stupid question only shows your ignorance about evolution.
Asking how life started is a stupid question ? And your reply was for me to tell you ? Have you stopped taking your meds again ?
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That's right; if it fits, wear it! If it doesn't, it doesn't apply to you. Simple logic and English comprehension.
I dont know if you think your stupidity and childishness is impressing anyone, but I am embarrassed for you.

IF you think that was somehow clever then you are clearly off your medication again.

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That makes you an arse.
HAH ! I knew you were ******* Gomer the Turd. You even talk like him !
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:49 pm
@farmerman,
Take it up with HS.
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let me say that the del operator is incompatible with modern genetics
From a geologist who is a self-declared "scientist". Another way to say modern ? Bound to be proven wrong.
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"It caint happen cause we aint got no math to cover this phenomenon"
You mean like God cant exist because he didnt leave a fossil footprint.
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High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:51 pm
@Ionus,
A different impression than what? Are you talking about Sewell's book, published by the same institute that employs Berlinski?
http://www.discoveryinstitutepress.com/in-the-beginning/graphics/book-in-the-beginning-lg.jpg

I'm not sure I've anything to add to what's been said here. Well, just another Fragment from Heraklitus (# 123):
Quote:
φύσις ... κρύπτεσθαι φιλεῖ.

Nature likes concealment.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:52 pm
@spendius,
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HS prematurely ejaculated.
Girls can do that ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 06:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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It's about psychology and religion. I say there is no relationship between the two.

Dear SillyOne Imposter,
did you try getting off your fat arse and looking ?
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