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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
High Seas
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 06:43 pm
@spendius,
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We don't pay on bets until the stewards give the "weighed in" signal.

Not at the best clubs - you're evidently frequenting lower-class betting venues. So you're a deadbeat in addition to being a drunk? Sad!
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 06:50 pm
@High Seas,
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Wandeljw : I hope that the November election changes the current configuration on the Texas state board.

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Ionus : What do the majority want ? I am certain you are not advocating rule by social class...seeing we have replaced landed nobility with scientists.

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Farmerman : The majority want free cable tv. Think were gonna give it to em ANUS?. Fat cjance.
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but think someone else here in addition to you would have noticed this alleged disenfranchisement proposal
Yes, you would think that except they dont care.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 06:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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They defy all scientific knowledge in fear of their own belief system based on creationism.
So they dont drive cars or watch programs about Space on TV, or use electricity..."defy all scientific knowledge"...gees what a drama queen. Can you exagerate a little more just to parody your position for the blind ?
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It is believed that there are other universe with other life forms.
Very Happy By whom ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 06:55 pm
@edgarblythe,
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I don't read that guys posts, but he is either lying or having too much hash to make a charge like that.
You dont read this nameless persons posts but you know anyway ? Is that the religion coming out in science ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 06:56 pm
@spendius,
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What interest does anybody have in your daily doings?
I went to the toilet at about the same time. There is no shortage of interest in **** by the scientists here.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 06:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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You'll have to do better than that to challenge evolution.
Bloody slow learners. I am not challenging evolution. Read and re-read till you understand.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 09:14 pm
@Ionus,
You're not only a slow reader, but a dumbbell as well; if you support creationism, you ARE challenging evolution. DUH!
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 09:58 pm
@Ionus,
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If evolution is not a chronological sequence and does not include the origins of life then it has holes.

Now I see that ANUS(the emperor of the obvious) is speaking as a "rule maker" for science. SInce the science of evolution has NEVER included the issue of the origins of life, why should it do so because some clown name of Ionus on a bulletin board says so?

There are enough issues in genetics, geology, paleontology, biochemistry, geophysics, geochronology and biogeography to keep all the evolutionary scientists busy for the forseeable future. THey have no real issues re: abiogenesis because it doesnt even pertain to anything that involves evolution.
There are several competing theories of abiogenesis and, so far, no ones really in the lead.No matter who wins out, itll have no bearing on evolution, cause the issue of "simple to complex" has been well established and evidenced in the fossil record and sedimentary chemistry.

If you wish to endorse the great "cosmic poofistic" explanation of the introduction of the living state to this planet, there are several others on this board who can carry on with you, IM sure you all can keep each other occupied with your sagas.

SO far youve not added anything to this thread besides trollery and simple minded baseless myths. SO Im not surprised that youve included yourself in some kind of interdisciplanary jury of bullshit.


Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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if you support creationism, you ARE challenging evolution
Thats correct moron and what does that have to do with me ?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:04 pm
@High Seas,
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If Spendius would rather live with the monster Devonian scorpion pictured above rather than with a tiny little spider taking refuge in his kitchen from the storm outside - let him
That was no scorpion, that was my Pterygotus. (little paleo humor)
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:10 pm
@farmerman,
So you have had a rest and now want to play with the big boys again, huh ? Well dont go crying to your friends when you cant handle it.
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SInce the science of evolution has NEVER included the issue of the origins of life,
How I have missed your pathetic stupidity ! So when did evolution start ? Two seconds after life ? Two million years after life ? News flash for Gomer the Turd...the chemical processes that started life (whatever they may have been) ARE evolutionary in their very nature. How esle did complex molecules form from the simple without a selection process that favoured the complex ?
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There are enough issues in genetics, geology, paleontology, biochemistry, geophysics, geochronology and biogeography to keep all the evolutionary scientists busy for the forseeable future.
Maybe you should explain that to your fellow science clowns who think there are no holes in evolution.
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cause the issue of "simple to complex" has been well established
Care to explain how ? Without skipping over the important bits.
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If you wish to endorse the great "cosmic poofistic" explanation of the introduction of the living state to this planet
You mean the big bang.

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Now I see that ANUS....bullshit.
There you go...back to normal...yourself arseholes and **** all in the one post. Why do you associate yourself with **** ? Feelings of inadequacy ? Constipated ? Ex-alter boy suffering rejection ?

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some kind of interdisciplanary jury of bullshit
Do you mean like when you said
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There are enough issues in genetics, geology, paleontology, biochemistry, geophysics, geochronology and biogeography to keep all the evolutionary scientists busy for the forseeable future.


Gomer the Turd must seek help.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:18 pm
@Ionus,
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So you have had a rest and now want to play with the big boys again,
I normally like to post herein but you and spendi get in the way of my attempts to communicate with the grownups.

If Im your personal target , so be it, but to make things at least mildly interesting please try to get some of your attempts at science correct. Youve a terrible record till now and its really not my job to confer anything on you without getting paid for your education.

I wonder when you will again add something positive to this thread? Maybe HS can run an odds table.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:35 pm
@Ionus,
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@rosborne979,
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Perhaps you will enlighten us as to why there are no holes in evolution and how life started. We wouldnt want you making a leap of faith in your religion of science now would we ?


Why don't “you” enlighten us in how life started?

@cicerone imposter,
Quote: if you support creationism, you ARE challenging evolution
Ionus Quote: Thats correct moron and what does that have to do with me ?

ci: If it's not you, then what's your problem. I didn't say, “you support creationism.” You are the moron around here. Do you understand the qualifier “if?”
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Now on the subject of psychology and religion and politics.

Here's a good article I picked up on the net:
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The Definition of "Psychology"
by Gene Zimmer

The word "psychology" is the combination of two terms - study (ology) and soul (psyche), or mind. The derivation of the word from Latin gives it this clear and obvious meaning:

The study of the soul or mind.


This meaning has been altered over the years until today, this is not what the word means at all. The subject of psychology, as studied in colleges and universities, currently has very little to do with the mind, and absolutely nothing to do with the soul or spirit.

It is important to understand that words and ideas are supposed to refer to something. "The large tree in the front yard" refers to an actual thing that can be seen, touched and experienced. "The man walking his little dog last night at sunset" refers to an actual event that can be seen, observed and experienced. The realm of mind is an actual realm that can be experienced, and at one time there were words that accurately referred to this realm.

Let's see what a few dictionaries have to say and how a word could alter and lose its true and actual meaning.

"Psyche" is defined as:

1. The spirit or soul.
2. The human mind.
3. In psychoanalysis, the mind functioning as the center of thought, emotion, and behavior.

And defining "soul", we have:

1. the spiritual or immortal elements in a person.
2. a person's mental or moral or emotional nature.

Most of us would agree we have a "psyche" per the above definitions in the sense of mind, thought, and emotions. Most would also agree they have a "soul" per the second definition above relating to man's mental, moral or emotional nature. We might all have different notions about what these ultimately are, but few could sanely disagree they exist.

The derivation of "psyche" comes from Latin and the Greek psukhe - breath, life, soul. To get a better "feel" for this term try to think of it as the invisible animating principle or entity that occupies, interacts with and directs the physical body.


Now, please explain to me how psychology relates to religion and politics? You are talking about something you cannot see, and only what you can observe.

Please explain to me how this works in the real world?


Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 12:05 am
@farmerman,
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but you and spendi get in the way of my attempts to communicate
I think your fingers and drinking disorder get in the way.
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please try to get some of your attempts at science correct.
Will that have to include the "pleicoene" period ?
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I wonder when you will again add something positive to this thread?
If I am to reply to your positive contribution then it is clearly a long way in the future.
Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 12:11 am
@cicerone imposter,
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Why don't “you” enlighten us in how life started?
Because I asked first, child.

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it's not you, then what's your problem.
Do you see how the following all fits together ? Read it and re-read it till you understand. Your attempt to weasel out of your obvious stupidity is embarrasing.

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You'll have to do better than that to challenge evolution.(I said: I am not challenging evolution.) You're not only a slow reader, but a dumbbell as well; if you support creationism, you ARE challenging evolution. DUH!
Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 12:16 am
@cicerone imposter,
That is pathetic. Who is Gene Zimmer apart from one of your sexual acquaintances. Who made him the boss ? The only thing I could find on him says he is a Scientologist. Rather a scatter brained reference dont you think ? When you go to Uni you will learn how to pick experts for expert opinions.
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Here's a good article I picked up on the net:
Right.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 12:17 am
@Ionus,
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Will that have to include the "pleicoene" period ?
Ill try to control my typos if you promise to learn some science. K?

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If I am to reply to your positive contribution then it is clearly a long way in the future
So that ignorant comment means that we can expect nothing original from you? Why am I not surprised.

Im waiting for your published paper on T rex DNA, and "DNA is everything", and increased tonite by your "EVolution without origins is incomplete".

Ahhhh, skollaship fem deep daannundah.

Ev anutha beeah ye doosh beg.
Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 12:28 am
@farmerman,
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Ahhhh, skollaship fem deep daannundah. Ev anutha beeah ye doosh beg.
Thats the spirit ! Keep trying, you can type like everyone else...just remember the little fire engine that thought it could....You do have a chip on your shoulder about Australians dont you ? Was your mother eaten by a dingo when you were a baby ?
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Im waiting for your published paper
Well I am not waiting for you to publish anything.....geological time doesnt have that sort of wait.
High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 04:26 am
@Ionus,
Geological time is a useful concept in quantifying the wait until Spendius pays the $16,000 (at current exchange rates) he owes the thread. Bet was offered (link: http://able2know.org/topic/121621-373#post-4407871 ) and settled on previous page. Now for the payment......
 

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