@spendius,
Quote: How about a link between paedophile priests and homosexuality ? Just how many religious people commit murder and rape as opposed to non religious people ....I am interested in your estimate.
Its interesting how ANUS tries to dismiss the very issue by exhonerating the priesthood in a manner that tries to deny their crimes. The newspapers in the US and lately, Ireland and Italy, are uncovering hundreds of these rogue priests who, under the guise of providing leadership to young children, are actually pedophelial predators. Wow, ANUS denial mechanisms are astounding.
His overall track record in anything analytical is abysmal anyway. What he is asking for is data that is derived by autocorrelation , a field of applied statistics that has always given dubious and often quite incorrect results ("Hockey stick "climate data, Phylogenetic trees, crime statistics, medical causes and effect data that show HIV does not cause AIDS).
His hysterical "striking out" at anyone who disagrees with his rants is not debate, its an attempt at bullying. Msolga has , in my estimation, done a credible job of exposing his flawed logic in a fashion that was astute, to the point, as well as quite civilized.
Remember, the US Klan was a quasi-religious organization dedicated to Christian white males. The Mafia is dedicated by Catholic rites , and , of course, much of the terror is perped by organizations organized under a pornographic and prophetic view of Islam.
In the US, the issue is quite simple, and ANUS and spendi have ignored the issue purposefully, while they seek only to disrupt a decent long term thread by irrelevancies, incorrect analyses, totally dumb views on science, and all topped with their own brands of narcissims. I can bet that spendis post is merely an attempt at refuting the post immediately above (Isnt it weird that he really never adds anything in the positive and then claims that everyone who is listening to him has the problem in communication), and of course, ANNUS will come back screaming in some fashion and will attempt to ridicule many of us , (usually me for my spelling errors but never anything of substance).
Id really like to see ANUS debtae something that hes said , like this "Statistics" junk.
spendi says
Quote:Science, as Io says, has nothing to say about morality or the law
This from the master of the fuckin obvious. WHY must science say anything about anything but science?
SCIENTISATS have often been the biggest participants in their pwersonal moral beliefs. The entire environmental movements have been opn the backs and careers of scientists whove spoken out on the crass commercialization of agriculture. SCientists have come out as major spokespeople against wars and genocidal activities of despots.
Spendi, try to separate a concept and a discipline fom iots participants. No science should be operating in an atmosphere of some weird religious control. It should proceed unfettered and while the RESULTS, may have opinion differences associated with them, let it happen.
WE have that very debate going on oin the US with the Bush regime cutting off funding for embryonic stem cell research. It was all based upon some "Moral high ground" bullshit, but resulted in the entire rest of the world leaping ahead in this research.
"Morality" assertions are, just like tastes in art and music, severely subjective.
In fact, I'd argue that I live a very moral life, firmly based on the beliefs which are important to me. I doubt that I am alone in this. 
Do you mean like your attempt to get people to exclude me because of my citizenship ? Why do you persist in being so dismally stupid ? Do you think you are not striking out that you are a well behaved debater ? What goes on in that fading mind of yours ? 