Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

You might as well aim that small-talk at the wall fm.

It's meaningless. Apart from confirming that you are out of your depth. And that's pointless because I already know.



You get over it. The door will never open on the atheistic POV in public school classes right across the curriculum. It even needs God to have a POV. One can't stand in front of a class arguing about what doesn't exist. It's like the anti-racists needing the racists. Female dignity exists as millions of works of art prove. And abortion, homosexuality, birth-control, pre-marital sex and abortion detract from female dignity. As if anybody can have control of her body. That's tantamount to saying that women were only invented in 1963 after the Beatles 1st LP.

What atheistic POV needs to be included in any course?

you certainly seem to need a crutch from which to derive your rantings . My assumption that you are familiar with the scientific method may have been too generous.
I understand that you are frantically attempting to maintain some points of relevance but, like ID and Creationism, I believe you are trying too hard to claim that everything within the sub disciplines of theology must be presented in public chools (the subject of this entire thread).

It must be soon time for you to go out and get loaded.

After that meaningless rant I thought it worth asking if the bed-bug infestations in America which we are seeing reported regularly are an early sign that the meek will inherit the earth.

It struck me when a video of somebody lifting a mattress was shown on CBS News and hundreds of the little darlings were seen scurrying in all directions that they don't like the light. So I imagine that their favourite niche is any one of the cracks and crevices in the human body which has tender skin which is easily drilled into.

Is it a growing problem fm or do you have it under control?

It's not a problem here but that's probably due to our blood not being as rich in nutrient as that of comfortably off Americans and thus of little interest to them.

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Working Replica of Noah's Ark opened In SCHAGEN, Netherlands .
Man Builds Noah's Ark to the exact scale given in the Bible.


The massive central door in the side of Noah's Ark was opened and the first crowd of curious townsfolk beheld the wonder. This replica of the biblical Ark was built by Dutch Creationist Johan Huibers as a testament to his faith in the literal truth of the Bible.



The ark is 150 cubits long, 30 cubits high and 20 cubits wide. That's two-thirds the length of a football field and as high as a three-story house.





Life-sized models of giraffes, elephants, lions, crocodiles, zebras, bison and other animals greet visitors as they arrive in the main hold.




A contractor by trade, Huibers built the ark of cedar and pine. Biblical scholars debate exactly what the wood used by Noah would have been.



Huibers did the work mostly with his own hands, using modern tools and with occasional help from his son Roy. Construction began in May 2005. On the uncovered topdeck .... not quite ready in time for the opening .... will come a petting zoo, with baby lambs and chickens, and goats, and one camel.



Visitors on the first day were stunned. 'It's beyond comprehension', said Mary Louise Starosciak, who happened to be bicycling by with her husband while on vacation when they saw the ark looming over the local landscape.



'I knew the story of Noah, but I had no idea the boat would have been so big! ' There is enough space near the keel for a 50-seat film theater where kids can watch a video that tells the story of Noah and his ark. Huibers, a Christian man, said he hopes the project will renew interest in Christianity in the Netherlands, where church going has fallen dramatically in the past 50 years.



Now that I am old and gray....give me the time to tell this new generation (and their children too) about all of Your mighty miracles.
Psalm 71:18 [/img] OY, heres the story of a guy whose built a life sized version of "The Ark". And the people are saying things like "See I knew it could fit all these animals". These are products of our education systems

If this clown is honest, and has the balls for it, he should put to sea in that nautical abortion. We can start a pool on how long that thing stays afloat before it either breaks its back or broaches to and goes down like a stone.

I was thinking the same thing because the only pic I have has a world of 2X 10's and POSTS. (Ill see if I cant get one of the pix from the e mail that was sent to me by this anti science group).

I was thinking that his trip would end in about the same manner as that of the VASA.

I would imagine that, anything beyond a smooth lake would cause it to flex wildly and maybe flip over (I didnt see anything that resembled ballast).

Im just amazedat the time and industry involved to spur this guy on?

Course , I said the same thing about the statue of Crazy Horse.

The statue of Crazy Horse was never intended to put to sea in heavy weather with thousands of animals perched on it, sailed by eight geezers about 600 years old.

fm beams himself 3000 miles to find his latest sitting duck. It helps him to avoid the heavyweights. Setanta jumps aboard with infant's playground glee.

It's a Sunday afternoon attraction for those bored out of their minds with the other attractions.

Gee- the sheer intellectual standards of these anti-IDers never ceases to astonish me.

How's the currach going fm? Bit lacking in ambition compared to that construction which, thanks to you, I've seen a dozen pictures of. It's some feat.

Learning the art of "Stitch and glue" for her skins. Ive made a composite gunwale that just slips over her skin and acts as a nice thick diametered "bumper rail"

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It's scary to think what his objections might be. It's even more scary to think that he teachs at a university.

I looked up some of his student "feedback" pages. He teaches "Management" at YewMo. Stusdent feedbacks were not enthusiatic and supportive. If it twer me Id be a bit embarrased at the statements . WHen these things started going up on the internet in 2000, many teachers were reviewed based upon some of the feedback whenever they were always either full of mindless praise or ciriticism.

Mindless praise . . . i'd go for the mindless praise. I had two professors in university who just handed out grades. One was in English lit (in fact, he taught the "foreign lit" component of the English department's undergraduate literature track). He would just let you choose your grade, he wasn't either interested in grades, nor thought that they had any real relevance to his teaching. Since is was the only one in the class who "got" The Stranger by Camus, i said i wanted an "A." He gave it to me. I had already read it in French, and saw no reason to read it again in English. Many, many years later, i read it in English. It was then (and still may be) under copyright for the first English translation. It's a horrible translation, and it completely changes the tenor of the novel, and creates a completely different image of the main character. I understand now why the rest of the class didn't "get" it.

The second was one of my history professors. He taught the two survey courses for history majors, as well as History 128, the four hour course for non-majors which covered the material in the two other courses. He would routinely grade people in a ruthless manner, and a large proportion of his 128 students would either flunk altogether, or get really bad marks. The football and basketball coaches would loose it with him, and the department would make him back off for a while.

I had him for History 135, the first of the two courses for majors, covering the survey material up to 1500. Even though he was in one of his "lighten up" probationary periods, it was pretty tough for anyone not paying attention, or who wasn't already familiar with the material. He felt, justifiably, that people who were majoring in history ought to be already familiar with the material. He didn't cover it serially, by the date, either, but would look at pre-Semitic cultures, Semitic culture, Mycenaean and Minoan, Egyptian, Greek, Hellenistic (not the same thing as Greek), Roman, etc.

With a very obvious sneer, he told us at the beginning of the course he told us our grade would depend on how many points we accumulated. It would be possible to accumulate enough points for an "A" without completing all the material, if you attended every class and aced two thirds of the scheduled tests. He gave out points in class for anyone who could answer questions correctly as he covered the material. I was piling up points to the extent that i had a "B" locked down about half-way through the semester. We were covering the Romans, and near the end of that cycle, and on that day, he asked the date of the fall of Constantinople to the Osmanli Turks. I raised my hand. In his typical sarcastic delivery, he told me he was tired of me answering most of the questions in class, and that he didn't believe that i knew the answer. He said he was so certain that i didn't know the answer that if i gave the correct answer without consulting any books or my notes, he would give me an "A" for the course, but that he would never speak to me again. Well, my psychotic high school history teacher had made us memorize lists of dates and names (which was actually a godsend when i got to university and began to study history in earnest), which included the date of the fall of Constantinople . . .

"Well, Mr. _________, the date of the fall of Constantinople?"

"(Gulp) 1453, sir."

He was as good as his word. He never called on me in class again, and in fact he never spoke to me again, even if i passed in the hall in the History department and said Hello. Nasty little poof.

Yeah . . . give me mindless praise any day.

I was just setting the timer on the mikerwave, and i entered 1453 instead of the correct time. See what ya made me do . . . i almost burned my lunch.

Huibers' grain silo

Your stories remind me of an English Lit professor who told our class that we were not going to write anything in our term papers on Shakespeare that hasn't already been written before. He asked us to choose a book of literary criticism on Shakespeare and simply write a review of that book.

I completely agreed with this professor's approach.

Obviously. Setanta dished a fair pile of it up there. The only trouble when you praise yourself is that it becomes doubly mindless. At the least. I hope he had a straight parting and a dinner jacket on when he wrote it.

I never heard of anybody raising their hand to answer a professor's question before. If anybody here knew the date of the fall of Constantinople to the Osmanli Turks the last thing they would do is answer it.

Just think---1453. And the fall of C to the OTs probably went un-noticed at distances above twenty miles. A mere trifle in the rolling course of a year's destiny in world history. Unless history is memorising a load of dates, some doubtful, of certain events which might or might not have taken place and, if they did, little knowledge can be gained from knowing exactly when: plus or minus 182 days. To the nearest year by Catholic Church reckoning.

And think what a year can bring.

It's swot's history. No wonder the prof wouldn't speak to him again. The trouble with swots is that they don't know what it is they are swotting. They can swot anything. Psychotic teachers are plotting the destruction of civilisation by giving high marks for rote learning applications in order to produce a Tower of Bable situation where everybody sounds knowledgeable but nobody knows what anybody is on about. And they are doing a mighty fine job in my estimation.

What's this "folly" of an ark got to do with the topic of this thread? Come to think of it what does Wesley Sproggins sticking his nose over the parapet to get his name more widely known in some corner of the Republic and Setanta's "Glowing Incandesence" post have to do with it either.

And wande's mild claim to excellence in Shakespearean scholarship when he probably doesn't even know that there are over 600 nose jokes in the Complete Works or that Anne Hathaway blew the lad's mind.

Thus inducing you to extend your larnin bout the bardude even farther. Smart. Ill have to try that with continental drift. NOTHINGs new, just pick out a POV from one of the recent or classic Continental Drift literature and write about it in a scholarly fashion.

Thats why Im a fan of essays as a means to present some learning evidence. ALso, if its possible to answer by deriving an equation Ill accept that too. (Gotta be on the mark though).