MArtin seemingly is smoking the same **** as spendi. DNA's role in the genome unravelling is perhaps the strongest piece of evidence since Mendels little peas.
@farmerman,
Mendel was on a whole other level fm. Don't confuse your beloved DNA technicians with him. Not on here at least. It's okay on your porch.
@wandeljw,
Quote:a big push to attract world-class biomedical researchers, companies and grants to Texas
That's easy wande. You just lower education standards so that everybody has a degree and is thus an expert and roll the pork barrel out.
The phrase means nothing. Won't all states go on a big push as well?
It's infantile.
@wandeljw,
It's really disturbing when people demand to elevate fairy tales to the level of science in a science classroom. Then they argue that integrity can't exist without their values.
@wandeljw,
Quote:“The 21st Century Science Coalition has the wrong name,” says Dr. John G. West, Vice President for Public Policy and Legal Affairs at the Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture.
Why would anyone listen to this guy. The world is full of crackpots and nobody listens to them. This guy is VP of crackpot central so what possible reason would anyone have to listen to him.
Did you miss the "alleges" chaps?
Quote:The 21st Century Science Coalition alleges, however, that the references to “strengths and weaknesses” have been used by politicians “to introduce supernatural explanations into science courses.”
And why do you not trust the kids to laugh to scorn supernatural explanations in science courses?
But I know the answer to that. It is that you are totalitarian social engineers, like all men of the left, who believe we all need leading to safety and that you have the skill and wisdom to do so without putting it to the test in an election.
With rants instead of argument to justify yourselves as we have just seen.
You can't trust the kids because you then have no role. You just know best.
@spendius,
Twist and squirm, you can never bend the truth out of existence, spendi.
@edgarblythe,
You are scaremongers Ed. Bogeyman fixated. It gives you cred with idiots.
@rosborne979,
How many teachers are there in the US wande? It says ask an expert somewhere.
@wandeljw,
Quote:The parent who sparked the initial discussion, Joel Fanti, is a member of a Southern Baptist congregation, New Beginnings Community Church in Shallotte. His pastor, Brad Ferguson, expressed his support for Fanti’s proposal.
Well isn't that special. The Pastor supports his flock member.
Quote:“There is some scientific evidence supporting creationism,” said Ferguson.
Just because he says it with conviction doesn't make it so.
Quote: “Kids should be presented both sides… You can’t isolate disciplines. Science and faith"they go together.”
No they don't. What the hell is this guy talking about?
@rosborne979,
It reinforces "belief". The Cretes and the IDjits believe that if they say something loud and often enough, itll stick to the wall sooner or later. Im glad that the NCSE and the state organizations are better organized now than they were prior to the DOver trial. This way the information net and the ridiculing of the "religion is science" guys can be guffawed into the open.
PS, I notice the extreme streamlining of this site now that were one poster short. I like it that way. If I wish to view it, I can punch up the buttons, but I really dont have to unless Im bored,(which Im never)
@farmerman,
You must be bored to come on here effemm. Nobody would come on who wasn't bored. It's the only reason I come on.
Have you got a problem with being thought bored? That it is a shameful thing or some other equally crapulous denial assertion.
The very first requirement for coming on the Internet, never mind A2K, is unutterable, unbearable boredom.
It's laughable that you should think otherwise. Piteous even.
I would guess you don't think you're an arsehole as well.
@farmerman,
Quote:The Cretes and the IDjits believe that if they say something loud and often enough, itll stick to the wall sooner or later.
I've seen this a lot lately. The political campaigns are doing it too. They say things which are patently false and just keep repeating them.
The Freshwater incident has, on one hand, been blown out of serious proportion. I looked into the " burning " of the kids arms with a "Cross" , that was allegedly done by Freshwater as a "sign of Christian devotion" or whatever was asserted.
The story is actual bullshit by the papers and a small group whove filed a lawsuit.
While Im not a supporter of teaching Creteinism or IDjicy in science(Like I believe most of you know). However, "piling on" these unrelated issues in an effort to defame Freshwater , is something that will backfire on the plaintiffs (and, in my estimation, these things SHOULD backfire on them).
The "burning of the arms" was actually a demonstration of static electricity using a TEsla Coil. AS Tesla coil is a well known device that has been available to general science teachers as a teaching device since I was in junior high. To claim that the teacher was burning crosses into the kids arms is possibly beyond hyperbole.
I remember standing up with my arm in contact with a TEsla coil and being shot by a spark of static electricity and the pain from that shot. The "cross" was probably, in reality an "x" pattern that the coil can often impart especially if one breaks contact with the running apparatus.
SO, the story, if it has some aspects that are just complete bullshit, makes me wonder what other aspects of this story are not true, or, like the Michael REiss story, erroneously reported by BBC, are we just being served up another nice plate of excreta by the press ?.
I feel that the entire issue of "teaching religion" in science classes is clean and distinct on its own and doesnt need the " sensational help" from a gaggle of "plumeparrazzi"newspaper reporters.
I began suspecting less than honorable motives by the press ever since the Dover case, when there were many reports that the school board chair (one of the named defendants in the case)was a "drug addict" On further inquiry, it was revealed that Mr Buckingham , the board chair was NOT addicted to drugs, but was, instead suffering from some severe drug reactions from pain killers due to an earlier injury. His drug reactions were possibly life threatening and Mr Buckingham (for whom I have nothing but disdain for his tactics in the case), was actually a victim of overzealous and (IMHO libelous) reporting by some investigative reporters who wanted nothing more than to add some additional spice to the feature articles.
Shame shame on the press corps.